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Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee (Hybrid) - Monday, 6 October 2025 10.45

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Transcript: Transcript for 06/10/2025 - Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

Items
Expected timing	No.	Item
(10.45)	1.	Introduction, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest View the background to item 1. Minutes: Apologies were received from Samuel Kurtz MS, and Tom Giffard MS attended as substitute. Apologies were also received from Alun Davies MS, and Hannah Blythyn MS attended as substitute for items 1 to 4.
(10.45 – 11.30)	2.	British Sign Language (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Whip View the background to item 2. British Sign Language (Wales) Bill, as introduced Explanatory Memorandum Statement of Policy Intent Jane Hutt MS, Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Whip Ben Henriques, Senior Lawyer, Welsh Government Amira Evans, Head of Equalities, Welsh Government Jane Peffers, Head of British Sign Language Policy, Welsh Government British Sign Language interpretation is available on Senedd.tv Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 4 View the reasons why document 2./1 is restricted Minutes: The Committee received evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Whip.
	3.	Motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the following items: 4, 11 and 12 View the background to item 3. Minutes: The motion was agreed.
(11.30 - 11.45)	4.	British Sign Language (Wales) Bill: Consideration of evidence View the background to item 4. Minutes: The Committee considered the evidence received.
(12.30 - 13.25)	5.	Planning (Wales) Bill and Planning (Consequential Provisions) (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with Royal Town Planning Institute Cymru View the background to item 5. Mark Hand, Director of Wales, Northern Ireland and Planning Aid England, Royal Town Planning Institute Cymru Rhian Brimble, Policy Officer (Wales), Royal Town Planning Institute Cymru Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 6 View the reasons why document 5./1 is restricted Minutes: The Committee received evidence from Royal Town Planning Institute Cymru.
(13.30 - 14.25)	6.	Planning (Wales) Bill and Planning (Consequential Provisions) (Wales) Bill: Evidence session with the Planning and Environment Bar Association View the background to item 6. Annabel Graham Paul, Planning and Environment Bar Association Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 8 View the reasons why document 6./1 is restricted Minutes: The Committee received evidence from the Planning and Environment Bar Association.
(14.30 – 14.35)	7.	Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3 View the background to item 7.
	12.1	SL(6)650 - The Sheep Carcass (Classification and Price Reporting) (Wales) Regulations 2025 View the background to item 12.1 Regulations Explanatory Memorandum Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 4 - Draft report , item 12.1 PDF 503 KB View as HTML (12.1/1) 16 KB Minutes: The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified.
	7.1	SL(6)651 - The Senedd Cymru (Disqualification) Order 2025 View the background to item 7.1 Order Explanatory Memorandum Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 5 - Draft report , item 7.1 PDF 675 KB View as HTML (7.1/1) 21 KB Minutes: The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified.
	7.2	SL(6)652 - The National Health Service (Concerns, Complaints and Redress Arrangements) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2025 View the background to item 7.2 Regulations Explanatory Memorandum Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 6 - Draft report , item 7.2 PDF 678 KB View as HTML (7.2/1) 18 KB Minutes: The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting point identified.
(14.35 - 14.40)	8.	Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3 - previously considered View the background to item 8.
	8.1	SL(6)645 - The Town and Country Planning (Fees for Applications, Deemed Applications and Site Visits) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2025 View the background to item 8.1 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 7 - Report , item 8.1 PDF 173 KB LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 8 - Welsh Government response , item 8.1 PDF 441 KB View as HTML (8.1/2) 19 KB Minutes: The Committee noted the Welsh Government response.
	8.2	SL(6)635 - The Amendments to Subordinate Legislation (Miscellaneous Corrections) (Wales) Regulations 2025 View the background to item 8.2 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 16 - Report , item 8.2 PDF 153 KB LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 17 - Welsh Government response , item 8.2 PDF 108 KB View as HTML (8.2/2) 9 KB
(14.40 – 14.45)	9.	Inter-Institutional Relations Agreement View the background to item 9.
	9.1	Correspondence from the Welsh Government: Meetings of inter-ministerial groups View the background to item 9.1 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 18 - Letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Welsh Language: Finance: Interministerial Standing Committee, 3 October 2025 , item 9.1 PDF 184 KB Minutes: The Committee noted the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Welsh Language in relation to a meeting of the Finance: Interministerial Standing Committee due to take place on 17 October.
(14.45 – 14.50)	10.	Papers to note View the background to item 10.
	10.1	Correspondence from the Finance Committee to the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery: Financial implications of the Planning (Wales) Bill and the Planning (Consequential Provisions) (Wales) Bill View the background to item 10.1 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 9 - Letter from the Finance Committee to the Counsel General and Minister for Delivery, 29 September 2025 , item 10.1 PDF 121 KB
	10.2	Correspondence to the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Whip: The Welsh Government's Supplementary Legislative Consent Memorandum (Memorandum No. 2) on the Crime and Policing Bill View the background to item 10.2 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 10 - Letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Whip, 29 September 2025 , item 10.2 PDF 123 KB Minutes: The Committee noted its outgoing letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Whip.
	10.3	The Welsh Government's Supplementary Legislative Consent Memorandum (Memorandum No. 6) on the Mental Health Bill View the background to item 10.3 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 11 - Supplementary Legislative Consent Memorandum (Memorandum No. 6) , item 10.3 PDF 170 KB Minutes: The Committee noted that Supplementary Legislative Consent Memorandum (Memorandum No. 6) on the Mental Health Bill has been laid. The Committee agreed, due to the short reporting deadline, to not report on the Memorandum.
	10.4	Written Statement by the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Climate Change and Rural Affairs: Welsh Government plans to amend the legislative framework in Wales to provide additional protection to European beavers (Castor fiber) in Wales View the background to item 10.4 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 12 - Written Statement by the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Climate Change and Rural Affairs, 2 October 2025 , item 10.4 PDF 218 KB View as HTML (10.4/1) 13 KB Minutes: The Committee noted the Written Statement by the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Climate Change and Rural Affairs.
	10.5	Written Statement by the Cabinet Secretary for Education: Consultation summary of responses: Healthy Eating in Schools (Nutritional Standards and Requirements) (Wales) Regulations 2013 and Accompanying Statutory Guidance View the background to item 10.5 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 13 - Written Statement by the Cabinet Secretary for Education, 2 October 2025 , item 10.5 PDF 122 KB View as HTML (10.5/1) 13 KB Minutes: The Committee noted the Written Statement by the Cabinet Secretary for Education.
	10.6	Correspondence from the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Climate Change and Rural Affairs: General scrutiny follow-up View the background to item 10.6 Supporting documents: LJC(6)-27-25 - Paper 14 - Letter from the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Climate Change and Rural Affairs, 2 October 2025 , item 10.6 PDF 297 KB Minutes: The Committee noted the letter from the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Climate Change and Rural Affairs and agreed to share the letter with the Equality and Social Justice Committee.
(14.50 – 15.10)	11.	Planning (Wales) Bill and Planning (Consequential Provisions) (Wales) Bill: Consideration of evidence View the background to item 11. Minutes: The Committee considered the evidence received from Royal Town Planning Institute Cymru and the Planning and Environment Bar Association.
(15.10 – 15.15)	12.	International Agreements: Draft report View the background to item 12. Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 36 View the reasons why document 12./1 is restricted Minutes: The Committee agreed its draft report.

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