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Transcript: Transcript for 13/02/2023 - Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(12.00)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

There were no apologies or substitutions.

(12.00 – 12.05)

2.

Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3

 

Made Negative Resolution Instruments

 

2.1

SL(6)316 - The Judicial Offices (Sitting in Retirement – Prescribed Offices and Descriptions) (Wales) Regulations 2023

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and Welsh Government response and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified.

2.2

SL(6)317 - The Care and Support (Charging) and (Financial Assessment) (Wales) (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2023

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting point identified.

2.3

SL(6)320 - The National Health Service (Charges to Overseas Visitors) (Amendment) (Wales) Regulations 2023

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified.

 

Made Affirmative Resolution Instruments

 

2.4

SL(6)319 - The Non-Domestic Rating (Multiplier) (Wales) Regulations 2023

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified.

(12.05 – 12.10)

3.

Instrument that raises no reporting issues under Standing Order 21.7

Supporting documents:

3.1

SL(6)318 - Code of practice on the exercise of social services functions in relation to Part 4 (direct payments and choice of accommodation) and Part 5 (charging and financial assessment) of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and was content.

(12.10 – 12.15)

4.

Inter-Institutional Relations Agreement

4.1

Correspondence from the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd: Inter-Ministerial Group for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter from the Minister.

4.2

Correspondence from the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution: Inter-Ministerial Standing Committee

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the Written Statement and the letter from the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution.

4.3

Correspondence from the Minister for Health and Social Services: UK Health Ministers Inter-Ministerial Group

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter from the Minister.

4.4

Written Statement and correspondence from the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing: The Food Supplements and Food for Specific Groups (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 2) Regulations 2023

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the Written Statement and the letter from the Minister.

(12.15 – 12.20)

5.

Papers to note

5.1

Correspondence from the Minister for Climate Change: Legislative Consent Memoranda on the UK Government's Social Housing (Regulation) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter from the Minister.

5.2

Correspondence from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Supplementary Legislative Consent Memoranda on the Procurement Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the correspondence with the Minister.

5.3

Correspondence from the Economy, Trade and Rural Affairs Committee to the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd, and the Minister for Economy: Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter from the Economy, Trade and Rural Affairs Committee to the Minister.

5.4

Equality and Human Rights Commission briefing for House of Lords Second Reading on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the briefing by the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

5.5

Correspondence from the Local Government and Housing Committee: The Welsh Government's capacity to legislate

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter from the Local Government and Housing Committee.

5.6

Correspondence from the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution: Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the Correspondence with the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution.

(12.30 – 15.30)

6.

Historic Environment (Wales) Bill: Detailed Committee Consideration

Agreed Order of Consideration:

The Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee agreed on 16 January 2023, under Standing Order 26C.27, that the order of consideration for Detailed Committee Consideration proceedings would be: sections 2 to 75; Schedules 1 and 3 to 6; sections 76 to 157; Schedules 2 and 7 to 10; sections 158 to 166; Schedule 11; sections 167 to 191; Schedule 12; sections 192 to 213; Schedules 13 and 14; section 1; and the Long title.

 

Marshalled List of Amendments - 13 February 2023

Grouping of Amendments - 13 February 2023

Historic Environment (Wales) Bill

Explanatory Memorandum

Minutes:

In accordance with Standing Order 26C.27, the Committee disposed of the following  amendments to the Bill:

Amendment 49 (James Evans MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

James Evans

Alun Davies

 

Peredur Owen Griffiths

Huw Irranca Davies

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 49 was not agreed.



Amendment 1 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 2 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 3 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 4 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 5 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 32 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 33 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 34 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 6 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 7 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 8 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 9 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendments 10,11 and12 (Mick Antoniw MS) were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 13 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendments 14,15 and16 (Mick Antoniw MS) were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 17 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).


Amendment 18 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 19 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 20 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 21 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 22 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 23 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 35 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendments 36,37 and 38 (Mick Antoniw MS) were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 39 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 24 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 40 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 25 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 26 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 27 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 28 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 29 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 30 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 31 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

As amendment 49 was not agreed, amendment 50 fell

As amendment 49 was not agreed, amendment 51 fell

As amendment 49 was not agreed, amendment 52 fell

Amendment 41 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 42 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 43 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 44 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 45 (Mick Antoniw MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

As amendment 49 was not agreed, amendment 46 fell

As amendment 49 was not agreed, amendment 47 fell

As amendment 49 was not agreed, amendment 48 fell

(15.30)

7.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting

Minutes:

The motion was agreed.

(15.40 – 15.45)

8.

Historic Environment (Wales) Bill: Detailed Committee Consideration next steps

Minutes:

The Committee agreed to consider a draft report on the detailed committee consideration of the Bill at its next meeting. The Committee also agreed to write to the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution to seek further clarification.

(15.45 – 16.30)

9.

Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill: Draft report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered and agreed its draft report.

(16.30 – 17.15)

10.

Legislative Consent Memoranda on the Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill: Draft report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered its draft report.

(17.15 – 17.25)

11.

International agreements

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the international agreement on the UK/Italy Mutual Recognition of Driving Licences for the Purposes of Exchange. The Committee agreed to consider its draft report on the agreement outside of Committee to allow the report to be published ahead of the relevant scrutiny deadline.