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1.1 Committee Members participated in training as part of their preparation for the forthcoming work on accounts scrutiny.

2.1 The Auditor General for Wales provided an oral briefing on the findings of his Audit of Cardiff and Vale University Health Board’s Contractual Relationships with RKC Associates Ltd and its Owner, which was published on 17 July 2017.

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 1A – Autumn work programme

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 1 – Auditor General for Wales’ Report

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 2 – Welsh Government response to the Auditor General for Wales’ Report

3.1 The Auditor General for Wales provided an oral briefing on the findings of his Report on the Welsh Government’s funding of Carmarthenshire Energy Limited, which was published on 20 July.

3.2 Members agreed that the Chair should write to the Chair of the Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee advising them of the Report.

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 3 – Auditor General for Wales’ Report

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 3A – Welsh Government response to the Auditor General for Wales’ Report

4.1 The Auditor General for Wales provided an oral briefing on the findings of his report on the Welsh Government’s Supporting People Programme, which was published on 31 August 2017.

4.2 Members agreed to undertake an inquiry into this issue.

5.1 The Chair welcomed the Members to Committee.

5.2 Apologies were received from Rhianon Passmore AM. There was no substitute.

6.1 The papers were noted.

6.2 The Chair agreed to send a copy of the Welsh Government’s response to the Chair of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee.

6.3 In relation to Item 6.7, NHS Waiting Times for Elective Care in Wales and Orthopaedic Services, Members noted the progress being made and agreed to receive a further update on progress in spring 2018.

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 4 – Welsh Government’s response

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 5 – Letter from the Auditor General for Wales

7.1 Committee Members considered the Welsh Government’s response to the recommendations contained in the Committee report and noted that the Chair will be sending a copy of the response to the Chair of the Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee.

7.2 Members agreed to have an update on progress in spring 2018 but in the interim, the Chair will write to the Welsh Government seeking clarification on a number of points raised.

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 6 – Welsh Government’s response

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 7 – Letter from Community Housing Cymru

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 8 – Response from the Regulatory Board for Wales  

8.1 Committee Members considered the Welsh Government’s response to the recommendations contained in the Committee report and noted the positive reaction from the housing sector.

8.2 Members agreed to have an update on progress in spring and November 2018.

9.1 The Chair advised Committee that a detailed response to his letter of 26 June had been received from the Welsh Government which the Auditor General had subsequently commented on.

9.2 Due to time pressures, he advised that there was not sufficient time to consider and discuss the responses in detail.

9.3 Members agreed to consider this correspondence during the meeting on 2 October 2017.

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 9 – Letter from the Permanent Secretary, Welsh Government (17 August 2017)

10.1 Members considered the report from the Welsh Government on senior management pay across the Welsh public sector 2015-16.

10.2 Members requested that the Chair write to the Welsh Government thanking them for the report and requesting that future annual reports include details for further education organisations and registered social landlords in Wales.

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 10 – Auditor General for Wales Report

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 11 – Paper from Cardiff and Vale University Health Board

PAC(5)-23-17 Paper 12 – Letter from the Welsh Government

Len Richards – Chief Executive, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board

Maria Battle – Cardiff and Vale University Health Board

11.1 The Committee scrutinised Len Richards, Chief Executive and Maria Battle, Chair, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board on the Auditor General for Wales’ report on the Audit of Cardiff and Vale University Health Board’s Contractual Relationships with RKC Associates Ltd and its Owner.

Research Briefing

Owen Evans, Deputy Permanent Secretary, Education and Public Services Group

12.1 The Committee held a valedictory session with Owen Evans, Deputy Permanent Secretary, Education and Public Services Group, prior to him leaving the organisation.

12.2 The Chair wished him well for his new role as Chief Executive of S4C.

Items 14 & 15

13.1 The motion was agreed.

14.1 Members considered the evidence received and agreed to return to the issue once the counter fraud report had been received.

14.2 In the interim, the Chair agreed to write to the Chief Executive and Chair of Cardiff and Vale University Health Board highlighting the Committee’s concerns and seeking assurance that their action plan will address all issues raised by the Auditor General and the Committee.

15.1 Members considered the evidence received.