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Transcript: Transcript for 09/12/2021 - Children, Young People and Education Committee

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Expected timing No. Item

(09.15)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Children, Young People and Education Committee.

 

1.2 In accordance with Standing Order 34.19, the Chair stated that she had determined that the public were excluded from the Committee’s meeting in order to protect public health but that the meeting would be broadcast live on www.senedd.tv

 

1.3 Apologies were received from Buffy Williams MS, Mike Hedges MS substituted. As agreed, Sioned Williams MS substituted for Sian Gwenllian MS for this meeting.

 

1.4 Under Standing Order 17.24A Sioned Williams MS declared her husband was employed by Swansea University and was a Member of UCU and a fellow of the Learned Society.

(09.15 - 10.15)

2.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - evidence session 7

Jeff Protheroe, Director of Operations – National Training Federation for Wales

Arwyn Watkins OBE, Managing Director of Cambrian Training Company and Board Member - National Training Federation for Wales

Kathryn Robson, Chief Executive – Adult Learning Wales

John Graystone, Chair – Adult Learning Wales

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Minutes:

2.1 The Committee heard evidence from representatives from the National Training Federation for Wales and Adult Learning Wales.

 

2.2 John Graystone from Adult learning Wales declared he was a Member of the HEFCW Council and Governor of a FE College.

 

2.3 The National Training Federation for Wales agreed to provide the exact number of higher apprenticeships level 4 and 5 currently delivered.

 

(10.25 - 11.25)

3.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - evidence session 8

David Notley, Co-Chair - The Innovation Advisory Council for Wales (IACW)

Professor Hywel Thomas, President - Learned Society

Professor Helen Fulton, Vice President for Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences - Learned Society

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3.1 The Committee heard evidence from representatives of the Innovation Advisory Council for Wales (IACW) and the Learned Society.

(12.30 - 13.30)

4.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - evidence session 9

Alastair Delaney, Director of Operations & Deputy Chief Executive – Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education

James Harrison, Policy Officer - Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education

David Gale, Quality Assurance Manager, Wales - Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education

Jassa Scott, Strategic Director – Estyn

Jackie Gapper, Assistant Director - Estyn

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.1 The Committee heard evidence from representatives from the Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education and Estyn.

(13.35 - 14.05)

5.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - evidence session 10

Mary van den Heuvel, Senior Policy Officer - National Education Union (NEU)

Rebecca Williams, Deputy General Secretary - Undeb Cenedlaethol Athrawon Cymru (UCAC)

Jamie Insole, Policy Officer – University and College Union (UCU)

Lynne Hackett, Regional Organiser, Lead for Further and Higher Education - UNISON Wales

Neil Butler, National Official (Wales) - NASUWT

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

5.1 The Committee heard evidence from Union representatives.

(14.05)

6.

Papers to note

Minutes:

6.1 The papers were noted.

6.1

Scrutiny of the Children's Commissioner for Wales Annual Report

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6.2

Scrutiny of the Children's Commissioner for Wales Annual Report

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6.3

Inter-Institutional Relations Agreement

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6.4

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

6.5

Extend the postgraduate STEMM bursary to all MSc students in Wales

Supporting documents:

(14.05)

7.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting

Minutes:

7.1 The motion was agreed.

(14.05 - 14.15)

8.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - consideration of the evidence

Minutes:

8.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard in the previous evidence sessions.

(14.15 - 14.20)

9.

Presentation on the pre-appointment hearing process

Minutes:

9.1 The Committee received a presentation on the pre-appointment hearing process.