Agenda and draft minutes

Finance Committee (Hybrid) - Wednesday, 13 September 2023 09.30

Venue: Committee Room 3 - Senedd. View directions

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Transcript: Transcript for 13/09/2023 - Finance Committee

Items
Expected timing	No.	Item
		Registration (09.00-09.15)
		Private Pre-meeting (09.15-09.30)
(09.30)	1.	Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest View the background to item 1. Minutes: 1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Finance Committee.
(09.30)	2.	Paper(s) to note View the background to item 2. Minutes of the meetings held on 21 June, 28 June and 6 July. Supporting documents: Minutes of the meeting held on 21 June 2023 , item 2. PDF 74 KB View as HTML (2./1) 50 KB Minutes of the meeting held on 28 June 2023 , item 2. PDF 49 KB View as HTML (2./2) 29 KB Minutes of the meeting held on 6 July 2023 , item 2. PDF 46 KB View as HTML (2./3) 28 KB Minutes: 2.1 The papers were noted.
	2.1	PTN 1 - Letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services: Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill - Revised timelines - 30 June 2023 View the background to item 2.1 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 1 - Letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services: Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill - Revised timelines - 30 June 2023 , item 2.1 PDF 853 KB
	2.2	PTN 2 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government - Finance: Interministerial Standing Committee - 6 July 2023 View the background to item 2.2 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 2 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government - Finance: Interministerial Standing Committee - 6 July 2023 , item 2.2 PDF 745 KB
	2.3	PTN 3 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Welsh rates of Income Tax outturn statistics 2021-22 - 7 July 2023 View the background to item 2.3 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 3 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Welsh rates of Income Tax outturn statistics 2021-22 - 7 July 2023 , item 2.3 PDF 707 KB
	2.4	PTN 4 - Letter from the Minister for Education and Welsh Language: School budget overspends - 11 July 2023 View the background to item 2.4 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 4 - Letter from the Minister for Education and Welsh Language: School budget overspends - 11 July 2023 , item 2.4 PDF 669 KB
	2.5	PTN 5 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Financial information for Directly Funded Bodies to consider in their budget planning - 12 July 2023 View the background to item 2.5 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 5 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Financial information for Directly Funded Bodies to consider in their budget planning - 12 July 2023 , item 2.5 PDF 787 KB
	2.6	PTN 6 - Letter from the Chair of the Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee: Draft Budget 2024-25 timetable - 17 July 2023 View the background to item 2.6 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 6 - Letter from the Chair of the Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport, and International Relations Committee: Draft Budget 2024-25 timetable - 17 July 2023 , item 2.6 PDF 782 KB
	2.7	PTN 7 - Letter from the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd: The Environment (Air Quality and Soundscapes) (Wales) Bill - 13 July 2023 View the background to item 2.7 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 7 - Letter from the Minister for Rural Affairs and North Wales, and Trefnydd: The Environment (Air Quality and Soundscapes) (Wales) Bill - 13 July 2023 , item 2.7 PDF 803 KB
	2.8	PTN 8 - Letter from the First Minister to the Llywydd: Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Act 2023 - 27 July 2023 View the background to item 2.8 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 8 - Letter from the First Minister to the Llywydd: Environmental Protection (Single-use Plastic Products) (Wales) Act 2023 - 27 July 2023 , item 2.8 PDF 719 KB
	2.9	PTN 9 - Scrutiny of the Welsh Government First Supplementary Budget 2023-24: Welsh Government response - 11 August 2023 View the background to item 2.9 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 9 - Welsh Government response: Scrutiny of the Welsh Government First Supplementary Budget 2023-24 - August 2023 , item 2.9 PDF 969 KB
	2.10	PTN 10 - Letter from the Chair of the Reform Bill Committee - 23 August 2023 View the background to item 2.10 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 10 - Letter from the Chair of the Reform Bill Committee - 23 August 2023 , item 2.10 PDF 695 KB
	2.11	PTN 11 - The Environment (Air Quality and Soundscapes) (Wales) Bill: Welsh Government response - 1 September 2023 View the background to item 2.11 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 11 - The Environment (Air Quality and Soundscapes) (Wales) Bill: Welsh Government response , item 2.11 PDF 321 KB
	2.12	PTN 12 - Letter to the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Cost of living payment - 11 July 2023 View the background to item 2.12 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 12 - Letter to the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Cost of living payment - 11 July 2023 , item 2.12 PDF 254 KB
	2.13	PTN 13 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Cost of living payment - 1 August 2023 View the background to item 2.13 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 13 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Cost of living payment - 1 August 2023 , item 2.13 PDF 183 KB
	2.14	PTN 14 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government - Finance: Interministerial Standing Committee - 7 September 2023 View the background to item 2.14 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 14 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government - Finance: Interministerial Standing Committee - 7 September 2023 , item 2.14 PDF 132 KB
	2.15	PTN 15 - Letter from Audit Wales: Notification of audit deadlines - 3 August 2023 View the background to item 2.15 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 15 - Letter from Audit Wales: Notification of audit deadlines - 3 August 2023 , item 2.15 PDF 159 KB
	2.16	PTN 16 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Evidence papers supporting the 2024-25 Draft Budget - 8 September 2023 View the background to item 2.16 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 PTN 16 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government: Evidence papers supporting the 2024-25 Draft Budget - 8 September 2023 , item 2.16 PDF 184 KB
(09.30)	3.	Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from items 4,5,7,8,9 and 10 View the background to item 3. Minutes: 3.1 The motion was agreed.
(09.30-10.00)	4.	Welsh Government Draft Budget 2024-25 - Technical briefing with the Chief Economist View the background to item 4. Jonathan Price, Chief Economist, Welsh Government Julian Revell - Head of Fiscal Analysis, Welsh Government Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 P1 – Presentation slides Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 40 View the reasons why document 4./1 is restricted Minutes: 4.1 The Committee received an economic and fiscal briefing from Jonathan Price, Chief Economist, Welsh Government; and Julian Revell, Head of Fiscal Analysis, Welsh Government.
(10.00-10.15)	5.	Welsh Government Draft Budget 2024-25 - Technical briefing with the Chief Economist: Consideration of evidence View the background to item 5. Minutes: 5.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.
(10.15-11.15)	6.	Welsh Government Draft Budget 2024-25 - Pre-budget scrutiny View the background to item 6. Rebecca Evans MS, Minister for Finance and Local Government Emma Watkins, Deputy Director, Budget & Government Business Gawain Evans, Director of Finance Supporting documents: Research Service Brief Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 42 View the reasons why document 6./1 is restricted Minutes: 6.1 The Committee took evidence on the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2024-25 from Rebecca Evans MS, Minister for Finance and Local Government; Emma Watkins, Deputy Director, Budget and Government Business; and Gawain Evans Director of Finance. 6.2 The Minister agreed to provide: · A note on Welsh Rates of Income Tax (WRIT), focusing on how tax collected through WRIT is then realised in Welsh Government budgets.
(11.15-11.30)	7.	Welsh Government Draft Budget 2024-25 - Pre-budget scrutiny: Consideration of evidence View the background to item 7. Minutes: 7.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.
(11.30-11.45)	8.	Welsh Government Draft Budget 2024-25: Approach to budget scrutiny View the background to item 8. Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 P2 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government - 20 July 2023 FIN(6)-13-23 P3 - Letter from the Llywydd and Chair of the Business Committee – 2 August 2023 FIN(6)-13-23 P4 - Letter from the Llywydd and Chair of the Business Committee – 4 July 2023 FIN(6)-13-23 P5 - Approach to budget scrutiny FIN(6)-13-23 P6 - Consultation letter Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 P2 - Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government - 20 July 2023 , item 8. PDF 190 KB FIN(6)-13-23 P3 - Letter from the Llywydd and Chair of the Business Committee – 2 August 2023 , item 8. PDF 216 KB FIN(6)-13-23 P4 - Letter from the Llywydd and Chair of the Business Committee – 4 July 2023 , item 8. PDF 217 KB Restricted enclosure 47 View the reasons why document 8./4 is restricted Restricted enclosure 48 View the reasons why document 8./5 is restricted Minutes: 8.1 The Committee considered the correspondence and agreed the approach to budget scrutiny and consultation letter.
(11.45-12.00)	9.	Review of the budget protocol View the background to item 9. Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 P7 Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government to the Llywydd – 9 August 2023 FIN(6)-13-23 P8 Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government - 20 July 2023 Research Service Brief Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 P7 Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government to the Llywydd – 9 August 2023 , item 9. PDF 184 KB FIN(6)-13-23 P8 Letter from the Minister for Finance and Local Government - 20 July 2023 , item 9. PDF 276 KB Restricted enclosure 52 View the reasons why document 9./3 is restricted Minutes: 9.1 The Committee considered the paper on the review of the budget protocol and agreed to write to the Chief Secretary to the Treasury.
(12.00-12.30)	10.	Future work: Strategic planning View the background to item 10. Supporting documents: FIN(6)-13-23 P9 – Strategic planning Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 54 View the reasons why document 10./1 is restricted Minutes: 10.1 The Committee considered the paper on strategic planning.

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