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Transcript: Transcript for 29/01/2026 - Local Government and Housing Committee

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09.30

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

 

1.1        The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.

1.2        There were no apologies, substitutions or declarations of interest.

09.30 - 17.00

2.

Building Safety (Wales) Bill: Stage 2 proceedings

 

Jayne Bryant MS, Cabinet Secretary for Housing and Local Government

 

 

 

Documents relevant to Stage 2 proceedings will be available on the Bill page.

 

 

The Committee agreed on 11 December 2025, under Standing Order 26.21, that the order of consideration for Stage 2 proceedings would be:

 

 

Section 2, Schedule 1, Sections 3 to 66, Section 1, Sections 67 to 96, Schedule 2, Sections 97 to 112, Schedule 3, Schedule 4, Sections 113 to 114, long title.

Minutes:

 

2.1     In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

 

Amendment 83 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 84 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 1 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 85 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 2 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 3 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 86 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 87 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 88 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 4 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 89 (Jayne Bryant) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 90 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 91 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 92 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 150 (Joel James MS) was withdrawn

Amendment 152 (Joel James MS) was not moved

Amendment 151 (Joel James MS) was not moved

Amendment 153 (Joel James MS) was not moved

Amendment 154 (Joel James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 155 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 155 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 156 (Joel James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 157 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 157 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 158 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 158 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 159 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 159 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 160 (Joel James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 160 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 161 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 161 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 162 (Joel James MS)

                                                       

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 162 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 163 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 163 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 164 (Joel James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 164 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 165 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 165 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 93 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 166 (Joel James MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 166 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 143 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was withdrawn

Amendment 144 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was not moved

Amendment 94 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 167 (Joel James MS) was withdrawn

Amendment 5 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 6 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 7 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 8 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 95 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 145 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 146 (Siân Gwenllian MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 146 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 147 (Siân Gwenllian MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 147 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 9 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 10 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 11 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 96 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 12 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 97 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 98 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 99 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 13 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 14 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 15 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 16 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 17 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 18 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 19 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 20 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 21 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 22 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 23 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 24 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 25 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 100 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 101 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 102 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 103 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 104 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 105 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 106 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 107 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 108 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 109 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 26 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 27 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 28 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 29 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 168 (Joel James MS) was withdrawn

Amendment 30 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 31 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)   

Amendment 32 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 33 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 34 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 35 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 36 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 37 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 110 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 38 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 111 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 39 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 40 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 41 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 42 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 43 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 148 (Sian Gwenllian MS) was not moved

As Amendment 148 (Sian Gwenllian MS) was not moved, Amendment 149 fell

Amendment 112 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 64 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

Sian Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

Amendment 64 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 65 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

Sian Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

Amendment 65 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 66 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

Sian Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

Amendment 66 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 67 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

Sian Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

Amendment 67 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 68 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

Sian Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

Amendment 68 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 69 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Sian Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 69 was not agreed.

 

 

Amendment 70 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Sian Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 70 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 71 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

Sian Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

Amendment 71 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 72 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

Sian Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

Amendment 72 was not agreed.

 

 

Amendment 73 (Rhys ab Owen MS):

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Peter Fox MS

John Griffiths MS

Sian Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

 

 

Amendment 73 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 44 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 45 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 169 (Joel James MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 113 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 114 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 115 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 116 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 117 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 118 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 119 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 46 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 120 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 121 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 122 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 123 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 124 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 125 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 126 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 127 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 128 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 49 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 129 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 50 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 140 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 141 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 51 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 130 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 131 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 132 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 133 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 52 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 134 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 135 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 136 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 54 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 137 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 142 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 55 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 56 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 57 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 58 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 59 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 60 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 61 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 62 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 138 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 139 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 63 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 74 (Rhys ab Owen MS) was not moved

Amendment 75 (Rhys ab Owen MS) was not moved

Amendment 76 (Rhys ab Owen MS) was not moved

Amendment 77 (Rhys ab Owen MS) was not moved

Amendment 78 (Rhys ab Owen MS) was not moved

Amendment 79 (Rhys ab Owen MS) was not moved

Amendment 80 (Rhys ab Owen MS) was not moved

Amendment 81 (Rhys ab Owen MS) was not moved

Amendment 82 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)