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Transcript: Transcript for 02/12/2021 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(09.00)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Children, Young People and Education Committee.

1.2 In accordance with Standing Order 34.19, the Chair stated that she had determined that the public were excluded from the Committee’s meeting in order to protect public health but that the meeting would be broadcast live on www.senedd.tv

1.3 There were no apologies. The Chair noted that Sioned Williams MS would be subbing for Sian Gwenllian MS for items 5 to 11.

(09.00 - 10.15)

2.

Scrutiny of Qualifications Wales Annual Report 2020 - 2021

David Jones, Chair – Qualifications Wales

Philip Blaker, Chief Executive – Qualifications Wales

 

Annual Report

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Minutes:

2.1 The Committee scrutinised Qualification Wales on their annual report.

(10.15)

3.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the next item

Minutes:

3.1 The motion was agreed.

(10.15 - 10.20)

4.

Scrutiny of Qualifications Wales Annual Report 2020 - 2021 - consideration of the evidence

Minutes:

4.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard in the previous session.

(10.30 - 11.30)

5.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - evidence session 3

Professor Elizabeth Treasure, Chair of Universities Wales and Vice Chancellor of Aberystwyth University

Professor Maria Hinfelaar, Vice Chair of Universities Wales and Vice Chancellor of Wrexham Glyndŵr University

Amanda Wilkinson, Director - Universities Wales

Marian Wyn Jones, Chair of the Chairs of Universities Wales (ChUW)

Maxine Penlington, Chair of the Board of Governors at Wrexham Glyndŵr University and representing Chairs of Universities Wales (ChUW)

Louise Casella, Director - The Open University in Wales

Cerith Rhys Jones, External Affairs Manager - The Open University in Wales

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

5.1 The Committee heard evidence from representatives of Universities Wales, the Chairs of Universities Wales and the Open University.

5.2 Universities Wales agreed to provide further information on:

- how Outcome Agreements have worked in other countries;

- the ‘carve outs’ in the Bill for Welsh Ministers to provide funding and direction for Welsh medium provision;

- governance arrangements within universities and learner protection;

- the effect that the United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 may have on the implementation of the Bill.

(11.35 - 12.35)

6.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - evidence session 4

Guy Lacey, Chair of ColegauCymru and Chief Executive Officer of Coleg Gwent

Dafydd Evans, Chief Executive Officer of Grwp Llandrillo Menai and representing - ColegauCymru

Rachel Bowen, Director of Policy and Public Affairs - ColegauCymru

Sharon Davies, Head of Education - Welsh Local Government Association (WLGA)

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

6.1 The Committee heard evidence from representatives of ColegauCymru and the Welsh Local Government Association.

(13.30 - 14.15)

7.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - evidence session 5

Becky Ricketts, President - National Union of Students Wales (NUS)

Joe Atkinson, Press and Public Affairs Consultant - National Union of Students Wales (NUS)

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

7.1 The Committee heard evidence from representatives of NUS Cymru. 

(14.20 - 15.20)

8.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - evidence session 6

Aled Roberts, Welsh Language Commissioner

Ioan Matthews, Chief Executive - Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol

Gwenllian Griffiths, Chief Engagement Officer - Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol

 

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

8.1 The Committee heard evidence from the Welsh Language Commissioner and representatives from Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol.

8.2 The Welsh Language Commissioner declared that his wife worked in the FE sector and was currently the temporary Chair of Coleg Cymraeg Ceneldaethol.

(15.20)

9.

Papers to note

Minutes:

9.1 The papers were noted.

 

9.1

Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Skills and Post-16 Education Bill

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9.2

Inter-Institutional Relations Agreement

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9.3

Committee training

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9.4

Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Skills and Post-16 Education Bill

Supporting documents:

9.5

Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Skills and Post-16 Education Bill

Supporting documents:

9.6

General scrutiny of the Minister for Health and Social Services

 

 

 

 

 

 

                         

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9.7

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

(15.20)

10.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting

Minutes:

10.1 The motion was agreed.

(15.20 - 15.30)

11.

Tertiary Education and Research (Wales) Bill - consideration of the evidence heard in the previous session

Minutes:

11.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard in the previous sessions.