Agenda and minutes

Venue: Committee Room 5 - Tŷ Hywel. View directions

Contact: Fay Bowen 

Expected timing: Draft 


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Transcript: Transcript for 09/03/2022 - Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee

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Introductions, apologies and substitutions


1.1        The Chair welcomed the Members to the meeting.

1.2        Apologies were received from Rhianon Passmore. There was no substitute.

(09.15 - 09.30)


Papers to Note


2.1 The papers were noted.


Scrutiny of public administration: Letter from Welsh Local Government Association (31 January 2022)

Supporting documents:


Barriers to the successful Implementation of the Well-Being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015: Letter from the Chair of the Equality and Social Justice Committee to the Minister for Social Justice (15 February 2022)

Supporting documents:


Scrutiny of Accounts - Senedd Commission: Correspondence on use of the term BAME

Supporting documents:

(09.30 - 11.00)


Governance issues at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board: Evidence session with the Health Board

Mark Polin – Chair, Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board

Jo Whitehead – Chief Executive, Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board

Gill Harris – Deputy Chief Executive / Executive Director of Nursing And Midwifery, Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board

Sue Hill – Executive Director of Finance and Performance, Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board

Supporting documents:


3.1 Apologies were received from Gill Harris. Teresa Owen attended in her place.

3.2 The Committee received evidence from witnesses from Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board. The witnesses agreed to update the Committee on a number of actions in September 2022.

(11.10 - 12.00)


Welsh Government's NHS Wales Escalation and Intervention Arrangements

Judith Paget -  Director General Health/NHS Chief Executive

Chris Jones – Deputy Chief Medical Officer/Medical Director NHS Wales

Steve Elliot - Interim Director of Finance

Supporting documents:


4.1 Apologies were received from the witnesses from the Welsh Government. The Committee agreed to write to the witnesses with the questions from the session.



Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Item 6 and the meeting on 23 March 2022


5.1 The motion was agreed.

(12.00 - 12.30)


Governance issues at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board: Consideration of evidence received


6.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.