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Finance Committee (Hybrid) - Wednesday, 15 November 2023 09.30

Venue: Committee Room 5 - Tŷ Hywel. View directions

Contact: Owain Roberts

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Transcript: Transcript for 15/11/2023 - Finance Committee

Items
Expected timing	No.	Item
		Registration (09.00-09.15)
		Private Pre-meeting (09.15-09.30)
(09.30)	1.	Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest View the background to item 1. Minutes: 1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Finance Committee. 1.2 Apologies were received from Rhianon Passmore MS. 1.3 Jack Sargeant MS substituted for Rhianon Passmore MS.
(09.30)	2.	Paper(s) to note View the background to item 2. Minutes: 2.1 The papers were noted.
	2.1	PTN 1 - Letter from the Chair of Local Government and Housing Committee to the Counsel General and Minister of the Constitution: Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill - 3 November 2023 View the background to item 2.1 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-19-23 PTN 1 - Letter from the Chair of Local Government and Housing Committee to the Counsel General and Minister of the Constitution: Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill - 3 November 2023 , item 2.1 PDF 212 KB
	2.2	PTN 2 - Letter from the Deputy Minister for Climate Change: Environment (Air Quality and Soundscapes) (Wales) Bill - 9 November 2023 View the background to item 2.2 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-19-23 PTN 2 - Letter from the Deputy Minister for Climate Change: Environment (Air Quality and Soundscapes) (Wales) Bill - 9 November 2023 , item 2.2 PDF 187 KB
	2.3	PTN 3 - The Senedd Commission's response to the Committee's report on the Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25 View the background to item 2.3 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-19-23 PTN 3 - The Senedd Commission's response to the Committee's report on the Scrutiny of the Senedd Commission Draft Budget 2024-25 , item 2.3 PDF 328 KB
	2.4	PTN 4 - Letter from the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution to the Chair of the Reform Bill Committee: Follow up questions on the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill - 8 November 2023 View the background to item 2.4 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-19-23 PTN 4 - Letter from the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution to the Chair of the Reform Bill Committee: Follow up questions on the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill - 8 November 2023 , item 2.4 PDF 443 KB
	2.5	PTN 5 - Letter from the Senedd Commission: Update on the Civil Service Pension triannual valuation - 13 November 2023 View the background to item 2.5 Supporting documents: FIN(6)-19-23 PTN 5 - Letter from the Senedd Commission: Update on the Civil Service Pension triannual valuation - 13 November 2023 , item 2.5 PDF 299 KB
(09.30-10.15)	3.	Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Evidence session View the background to item 3. Rebecca Evans MS, Minister for Finance and Local Government Andrew Jeffreys, Director Treasury, Welsh Government Gawain Evans, Director of Finance, Welsh Government Supporting documents: Research Service Brief Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 14 View the reasons why document 3./1 is restricted Minutes: 3.1 The Committee took evidence on the Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position from Rebecca Evans MS, Minister for Finance and Local Government; Andrew Jeffreys, Director Treasury, Welsh Government; and Gawain Evans, Director of Finance, Welsh Government. 3.2 The Minister for Finance and Local Government agreed to: · provide a note on the procedure for changing the Revenue Support Grant (RSG) within a financial year, and whether this procedure requires primary legislation. · ask the Minister for Education and the Welsh Language for a note on the formula for allocating funding to secondary schools, and the assertion that similar sized schools can receive a marked difference in funding allocation.
		Break
(10.15-11.15)	4.	Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Evidence session View the background to item 4. Mick Antoniw MS, Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution Michael Kay, SRO for the Bill – Deputy Director, Elections Division Mathew Xerri, Head of Elections Policy, Elections Division Supporting documents: Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill (PDF 446KB) Explanatory Memorandum (PDF 2.3MB) Research Service Brief Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 16 View the reasons why document 4./1 is restricted Minutes: 4.1 The Committee took evidence on the Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill from Mick Antoniw MS, Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution; Michael Kay, SRO for the Bill – Deputy Director, Elections Division; and Mathew Xerri, Head of Elections Policy, Elections Division.
(11.15)	5.	Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting and the meeting on 13 December. View the background to item 5. Minutes: 5.1 The motion was agreed.
(11.15-11.25)	6.	Financial implications of the Elections and Elected Bodies (Wales) Bill: Consideration of evidence View the background to item 6. Minutes: 6.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.
(11.25-11.30)	7.	Update on Welsh Government 2023-24 in-year financial position: Consideration of evidence View the background to item 7. Minutes: 7.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.
(11.30-12.00)	8.	Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill: Key issues paper View the background to item 8. Supporting documents: FIN(6)-19-23 P1 - Key issues paper Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 18 View the reasons why document 8./1 is restricted Minutes: 8.1 The Committee considered the key issues paper on the Senedd Cymru (Members and Elections) Bill.
(12.00-12.15)	9.	Annual scrutiny of the Wales Audit Office and the Auditor General for Wales: Consideration of draft report View the background to item 9. Supporting papers: FIN(6)-19-23 P2 – Draft report (To be included in a supplementary pack) Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 20 View the reasons why document 9./1 is restricted Minutes: 9.1 The Committee considered and agreed the draft report.
(12.15-12.30)	10.	Annual Scrutiny of the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales: Consideration of draft report View the background to item 10. Supporting documents: FIN(6)-19-23 P3 - Draft report Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 22 View the reasons why document 10./1 is restricted Minutes: 10.1 The Committee considered and agreed the draft report.

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