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Transcript: Transcript for 28/01/2019 - Public Accounts Committee - Fifth Senedd

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(13.15)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1        The Chair welcomed Members to the Committee and welcomed Vikki Howells AM back following her recent election. He thanked Jack Sargeant AM for his contributions.

(13.15)

2.

Paper(s) to note

Minutes:

2.1 The papers were noted.

2.1

Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Letter from the Welsh Government (7 January 2019)

Supporting documents:

2.2

Scrutiny of Accounts 2017-18: Letter from the Permanent Secretary, Welsh Government (14 January 2019)

Supporting documents:

2.3

The Welsh Government's Supporting People Programme: Letter from the Welsh Government (15 January 2019)

Supporting documents:

(13.20-15.00)

3.

Governance Review of Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board: Lessons learnt - Evidence session with the Welsh Government

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-02-19 Paper 1 – Paper from Welsh Government

PAC(5)-02-19 Paper 2 – Letter from the Older People’s Commissioner for Wales (22 January 2019)

 

Dr Andrew Goodall – Director General HSS/Chief Executive NHS Wales

Simon Dean - Deputy Chief Executive NHS Wales

Jo Jordan - Director of Mental Health, NHS Governance & Corporate Services, Welsh Government

Alan Brace - Director of Finance, Welsh Government

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3.1 Members received evidence from Dr Andrew Goodall, Director General of Health and Social Services and Chief Executive NHS Wales; Simon Dean, Deputy Chief Executive NHS Wales; Jo Jordan, Director of Mental Health, NHS Governance & Corporate Services; and Alan Brace, Director of Finance, Welsh Government as part of the inquiry into Lessons learnt from the Governance Review of Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board.

3.2 Dr Goodall agreed to send an analysis of the BCUHB staff survey which shows the level of improvement over the last three years. He also agreed to send details of staff surveys from other health boards to provide a picture across Wales.

(15.10 - 15.25)

4.

Care experienced children and young people: Welsh Government response to the Committee's Report

PAC(5)-02-19 Paper 3 – Welsh Government response

PAC(5)-02-19 Paper 4 – Letter from the Auditor General Auditor on the Welsh Government response

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.1 Members considered the response and it was agreed that the Chair would write to the Welsh Government seeking clarification on a number of issues.

(15.25 - 15.40)

5.

Natural Resources Wales: Responses to the Committee's Report

PAC(5)-02-19 Paper 5 – Welsh Government Response

PAC(5)-02-19 Paper 6 – Natural Resources Wales Response

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

5.1 Members considered the responses to the report and noted that Natural Resources Wales were scheduled to attend Committee on 11 February.

(15.40)

6.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Items 7, 8 & 9

Minutes:

6.1 The motion was agreed.

(15.40 - 16.00)

7.

Governance Review of Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board: Lessons learnt - Consideration of Evidence Received

Minutes:

7.1 Members considered the evidence received.

(16.00 - 16.20)

8.

The Welsh Government’s relationship with Pinewood: Consideration of draft Report

PAC(5)-02-19 Paper 7 – Draft report

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

8.1 Members considered the draft report. It was agreed that a further version would be emailed to them, for agreement, later this week.

8.2 Members agreed to hold a plenary debate on the Report.

(16.20- 17.00)

9.

Scrutiny of Accounts 2017-18: Consideration of draft report

PAC(5)-02-19 Paper 8 – Draft report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

9.1 Members considered the draft report and due to time constraints, agreed to return to it at the next meeting.