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Transcript: Transcript for 12/10/2020 - Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

Items
Note No. Item

09:30

1.

Introduction, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

The Chair confirmed that, in accordance with Standing Order 34.19, he had determined that the public were excluded from the Committee’s meeting in order to protect public health.

 

There were no apologies or substitutions.

 

In accordance with Standing Order 17.24A, David Melding declared an interest with respect to Item 2.

09:30-10:30

2.

Making Justice work in Wales: Evidence session 2

Mark Drakeford MS, First Minister of Wales

Jeremy Miles MS, Counsel General

Christopher Warner, Deputy Director, Constitutional Affairs & Inter-Governmental Relations, Welsh Government

James Gerard, Deputy Director, Justice Transformation & Devolution, Welsh Government

 

CLA(5)-29-20 – Briefing

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 1 – Letter from the First Minister, 28 August 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 2 – Letter from the First Minister, 23 July 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 3 - Letter from the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice, 7 July 2020

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee took evidence from the First Minister (until 9.55am) and the Counsel General in relation to its inquiry into Making Justice work in Wales.

10:30-10:40

3.

Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3

3.1

SL(5)623 - The Coronavirus Act 2020 (Residential Tenancies: Protection from Eviction) (Wales) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 4 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 5 – Regulations

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 6 – Explanatory Memorandum

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 7 – Letter from the Minister for Finance and Trefnydd, 28 September 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 8 - Written statement, 28 September 2020

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified, and to consider the Welsh Government response at a future meeting.

3.2

SL(5)628 - The Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 13) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 9 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 10 – Regulations

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 11 – Explanatory Memorandum

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 12 – Letter from the Minister for Finance and Trefnydd, 2 October 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 13 – Written statement, 1 October 2020

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting point identified.

3.3

SL(5)625 - The Smoke-free Premises and Vehicles (Wales) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 14 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 15 – Regulations

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 16 – Explanatory Memorandum

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 17 - Written statement, 29 September 2020

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified.

3.4

SL(5)626 - The Senedd Cymru (Disqualification) Order 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 18 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 19 – Regulations

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 20 – Explanatory Memorandum

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified.

3.5

SL(5)627 – The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 2) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 16) (Conwy, Denbighshire, Flintshire and Wrexham) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 21 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 22 – Regulations

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 23 – Explanatory Memorandum

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 24 – Letter from the First Minister, 30 September 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 25 – Statement, 29 September 2020

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified, and to consider the Welsh Government response at a future meeting.

3.6

SL(5)629 – The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 2) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 17) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 26 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 27 – Regulations

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 28 – Explanatory Memorandum

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 29 – Letter from the First Minister, 2 October 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 30 – Written statement, 2 October 2020

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the instrument and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the reporting points identified.

10:40-10:45

4.

Instruments that raise issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.2 or 21.3 - previously considered

4.1

SL(5)619 - The Health Protection (Coronavirus Restrictions) (No. 2) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 12) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 31 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 32 – Welsh Government response

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the Welsh Government response and agreed to seek further clarification with regard to the timescales for reviewing local restrictions.

4.2

SL(5)621 - The Health Protection (Coronavirus, International Travel) (Wales) (Amendment) (No. 12) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 33 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 34 – Welsh Government response

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the Welsh Government response.

10:45-10:50

5.

Subordinate legislation that raises issues to be reported to the Senedd under Standing Order 21.7

5.1

C(5)042 - The Senedd and Elections (Wales) Act 2020 (Commencement) Order 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 35 – Report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 36 – Order

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 37 – Letter from the First Minister, 28 September 2020

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the Order and agreed to report to the Senedd in line with the point identified.

10:50-10:55

6.

Written statements under Standing Order 30C

6.1

WS-30C(5)167 - The Environment (Miscellaneous Amendments etc.) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 38 – Written statement

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 39 - Commentary

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the statement and the commentary.

6.2

WS-30C(5)168 - The Nutrition (Amendment etc) (EU Exit) Regulations 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 40 – Written statement

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 41 - Commentary

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the statement and the commentary.

10:55-11:00

7.

Papers to note

7.1

Letter from the Counsel General: Follow up to Committee scrutiny session on 21 September 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 42 – Letter from the Counsel General, 5 October 2020

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter from the Counsel General.

7.2

Letter from the Secretary of State for Wales: UK Internal Market Bill

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 43 – Letter from the Secretary of State for Wales, 3 October 2020

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter from the Secretary of State for Wales.

11:00

8.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting

Minutes:

The Committee agreed the motion.

11:00-11:10

9.

Making Justice work in Wales: Consideration of evidence

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 44 – Summary note of engagement exercise

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the evidence received during the session with the Counsel General and the First Minister.

11:10-11:20

10.

The Greenhouse Gas Emissions Trading Scheme Order 2020: Consideration of draft report

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 45 – Draft report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered its draft report and agreed to consider it further at the next meeting.

11:20-11:30

11.

Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Domestic Abuse Bill: Consideration of correspondence

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 46 – Letter from the Deputy Minister and Chief Whip, 6 October 2020

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 47 – Legal advice note

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee noted the letter from the Deputy Minister and Chief Whip in relation to the Domestic Abuse Bill LCM and agreed to write to seek further clarification before drafting its report.

11:30-11:40

12.

Legislative Consent Memorandum on the Non-Domestic Rating (Lists) (No. 2) Bill: Consideration of key issues

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 48 – Legislative Consent Memorandum

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 49 – Legal advice note

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the key issues with regard to the Non-Domestic Rating (Lists) (No. 2) Bill LCM. The Committee agreed to consider its draft report at a future meeting.

11:40-11:50

13.

Covid-19 regulations: Consideration of correspondence

CLA(5)-29-20 – Paper 50 – Letter from the Llywydd, 8 October 2020

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The Committee considered the letter from the Llywydd in relation to the scrutiny of Covid-19 regulations and agreed to consider its response at the next meeting.

 

 

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