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Transcript: Transcript for 29/01/2020 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs The
Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice
after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The
item started at 13.30 The
first 8 questions were asked. Questions 3 and 5 were grouped together for
answer. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to
the Minister after question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Housing and Local Government The
Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople to ask questions without notice
after Question 2. Minutes: The
item started at 14.21 The
first 5 questions were asked. Questions 1 and 5 were answered by the Deputy
Minister for Housing and Local Government. The Presiding Officer invited party
spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2. |
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Point of Order 15.09 Mandy Jones raised a point of order under Standing Orders 13.9(iv) and 13.9(v) regarding language used in the Chamber during last week’s proceedings. The Llywydd agreed to review the record and return to the matter if necessary |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To ask the Minister for Health and Social Services: Caroline Jones (South Wales West): Will the Minister
outline the steps being taken by Public Health Wales and NHS Wales to protect
the public from Coronavirus? (TAQ387) Leanne Wood (Rhondda):
How does the Welsh Government intend to meet demand for Accident and
Emergency services in the Rhondda and beyond if 24-hour A&E services are
reduced at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital? (TAQ386) Minutes: The
item started at 15.10 To ask
the Minister for Health and Social Services: Caroline Jones (South Wales West): Will
the Minister outline the steps being taken by Public Health Wales and NHS Wales
to protect the public from Coronavirus? Leanne Wood (Rhondda): How does the Welsh Government intend to
meet demand for Accident and Emergency services in the Rhondda and beyond if
24-hour A&E services are reduced at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital? |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The
item started at 15.46 Lynne Neagle made a statement
celebrating the achievements of the winners of the Learning and Work
Institute’s Inspire! Tutor Awards on 22 January 2020 Leanne Wood made a statement
on Treorchy’s triumph in the UK High Street of the Year competition Sian Gwenllian made a statement
on Gwynedd Slate Quarries being nominated as UNESCO World Heritage Site |
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(5 mins) |
Motion to alter the name and remit of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee NDM7242 Elin
Jones (Ceredigion) The National Assembly for Wales, in accordance
with Standing Order 16.3, agrees to alter the name and remit of the
Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee, so that they are as follows: a) the Legislation, Justice and
Constitution Committee; b) to carry out the functions of the responsible
committee set out in Standing Order 21 and to consider any other matter
relating to legislation, justice and the constitution within or relating to the
competence of the Assembly or the Welsh Ministers, including the quality of
legislation. Minutes: The item started at 15.51 Voting on the
motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time. NDM7242 Elin Jones (Ceredigion) The National
Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 16.3, agrees to alter the
name and remit of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee, so that
they are as follows: a) the Legislation,
Justice and Constitution Committee; b) to carry out the
functions of the responsible committee set out in Standing Order 21 and to
consider any other matter relating to legislation, justice and the constitution
within or relating to the competence of the Assembly or the Welsh Ministers,
including the quality of legislation. The result was as
follows:
The motion was agreed. |
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Motion to Elect a Member to the Assembly's Commission (5 mins) The item started at 15.54 NDM7261 – Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with
Standing Order 7.9, appoints Rhun ap Iorwerth (Plaid Cymru) as a member of the
Assembly Commission. The
motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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(60 mins) |
Welsh Conservatives Debate - Departure from the European Union NDM7241 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales: 1. Notes that the people of Wales voted to
leave the European Union in the referendum held on the 23 June 2016. 2. Believes that the outcome of referendums
should always be implemented. 3. Acknowledges that Wales, along with the
rest of the United Kingdom, will leave the European Union at 23.00 on 31
January 2020. 4. Recognises the potential benefits to
Wales, of the United Kingdom’s departure from the European Union, including: a) striking new free trade agreements; b) creating a fairer immigration system which
does not discriminate against people on the basis of where they may come from; c) establishing a new approach to regional
investment. 5. Calls upon the Welsh Government to
engage positively with the UK Government as the United Kingdom leaves the European
Union. The following amendment has been tabled: Amendment 1 - Rebecca
Evans (Gower) Delete all and replace with: 1. Notes that the people of Wales voted to
leave the European Union in the referendum held on the 23 June 2016 and that
Wales, along with the rest of the United Kingdom, will leave the European Union
at 23.00 on 31 January 2020. 2. Recognises that there are benefits as
well as challenges arising from the United Kingdom’s departure from the
European Union. 3. Believes that the challenges may include
a significant threat to the future of the United Kingdom itself; that therefore
significant reform to the constitution is needed to fully embed devolution; and
that the negotiation of Free Trade Agreements with the EU and other countries,
without the meaningful involvement of the devolved administrations could risk
undermining the devolution settlement; and regrets that this was not recognised
by the UK Government during the passage of the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Act in
the UK Parliament. 4. Supports the 20-point plan put forward
by the Welsh Government in ‘Reforming our Union’ which will ensure that
devolution becomes an established part of the constitution once the UK leaves
the EU. 5. Calls upon the Welsh Government to
continue to engage positively with the UK Government and to speak up for the
interests of Wales as the United Kingdom leaves the European Union. Minutes: The item started at
15.55 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7241 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that the people of Wales voted to leave the European Union in the
referendum held on the 23 June 2016. 2.
Believes that the outcome of referendums should always be implemented. 3.
Acknowledges that Wales, along with the rest of the United Kingdom, will leave
the European Union at 23.00 on 31 January 2020. 4.
Recognises the potential benefits to Wales, of the United Kingdom’s departure
from the European Union, including: a)
striking new free trade agreements; b)
creating a fairer immigration system which does not discriminate against people
on the basis of where they may come from; c)
establishing a new approach to regional investment. 5.
Calls upon the Welsh Government to engage positively with the UK Government as
the United Kingdom leaves the European Union.
The motion without amendment was not
agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 - Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete all and
replace with: 1. Notes that the
people of Wales voted to leave the European Union in the referendum held on the
23 June 2016 and that Wales, along with the rest of the United Kingdom, will
leave the European Union at 23.00 on 31 January 2020. 2. Recognises that
there are benefits as well as challenges arising from the United Kingdom’s
departure from the European Union. 3. Believes that
the challenges may include a significant threat to the future of the United
Kingdom itself; that therefore significant reform to the constitution is needed
to fully embed devolution; and that the negotiation of Free Trade Agreements
with the EU and other countries, without the meaningful involvement of the
devolved administrations could risk undermining the devolution settlement; and
regrets that this was not recognised by the UK Government during the passage of
the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Act in the UK Parliament. 4. Supports the
20-point plan put forward by the Welsh Government in ‘Reforming our Union’
which will ensure that devolution becomes an established part of the
constitution once the UK leaves the EU. 5. Calls upon the
Welsh Government to continue to engage positively with the UK Government and to
speak up for the interests of Wales as the United Kingdom leaves the European
Union. A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM7241 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1. Notes that the
people of Wales voted to leave the European Union in the referendum held on the
23 June 2016 and that Wales, along with the rest of the United Kingdom, will
leave the European Union at 23.00 on 31 January 2020. 2. Recognises that
there are benefits as well as challenges arising from the United Kingdom’s
departure from the European Union. 3. Believes that
the challenges may include a significant threat to the future of the United
Kingdom itself; that therefore significant reform to the constitution is needed
to fully embed devolution; and that the negotiation of Free Trade Agreements
with the EU and other countries, without the meaningful involvement of the
devolved administrations could risk undermining the devolution settlement; and
regrets that this was not recognised by the UK Government during the passage of
the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Act in the UK Parliament. 4. Supports the
20-point plan put forward by the Welsh Government in ‘Reforming our Union’
which will ensure that devolution becomes an established part of the
constitution once the UK leaves the EU. 5. Calls upon the
Welsh Government to continue to engage positively with the UK Government and to
speak up for the interests of Wales as the United Kingdom leaves the European
Union.
The motion as amended was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
Plaid Cymru Debate - NHS Performance NDM7244 Sian
Gwenllian (Arfon) To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales: 1. Notes the latest NHS performance statistics
and regrets the continued failure to achieve performance targets across a range
of specialities and services. 2. Regrets the cancellation of planned
operations to deal with winter pressures and believes it is possible to plan
for dealing with winter pressures whilst ensuring routine procedures continue. 3. Believes that staff in the NHS and
social care should be congratulated for their performance under difficult
circumstances. 4. Believes that improvements in the NHS
can only be sustained in the long run if: a) social care services have parity of
esteem with the NHS, and regrets that social care services have been
under-funded at the expense of the NHS; b) substantial investment in services that
prevent ill health takes place; c) improvements to working conditions and
workforce planning take place to improve recruitment and retention of NHS and
social care staff. The following amendments have been tabled: Amendment 1 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point after point 2 and
renumber accordingly: Regrets that some Welsh health boards are
delaying recruitment due to financial pressures which is exacerbating poor
performance and pressure on frontline staff. Amendment 2 - Rebecca
Evans (Gower) Delete point 4 and replace with: Recognises the impact a decade of unjust UK
driven austerity has on the resources available to fund public services
including health and social care and believes that improvements in the NHS can only
be sustained in the long run if: a) NHS and social care work together as
equal partners; b) investment continues across both systems
to support people to stay well and out of hospital; c) there remains a focus on the
recruitment, retention and wellbeing of our health and care workforce supported
by the joint health and social care workforce strategy. [If Amendment 2 is agreed amendments 3 and
4 will be de-selected] Amendment 3 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) In point 4 (a) delete ', and regrets that
social care services have been under-funded at the expense of the NHS'. Amendment 4 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Insert as new sub-point at end of point 4: 'the artificial barriers between mental and
physical health are removed.' Amendment 5 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Welcomes the opportunities to invest
additional resources into the Welsh NHS and social care services to boost
performance as a result of real terms increases in the Welsh block grant. Minutes: The item started at
16.59 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7244 Sian
Gwenllian (Arfon) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes the latest NHS performance statistics and regrets the continued failure
to achieve performance targets across a range of specialities and services. 2.
Regrets the cancellation of planned operations to deal with winter pressures
and believes it is possible to plan for dealing with winter pressures whilst
ensuring routine procedures continue. 3.
Believes that staff in the NHS and social care should be congratulated for
their performance under difficult circumstances. 4.
Believes that improvements in the NHS can only be sustained in the long run if: a)
social care services have parity of esteem with the NHS, and regrets that
social care services have been under-funded at the expense of the NHS; b)
substantial investment in services that prevent ill health takes place; c)
improvements to working conditions and workforce planning take place to improve
recruitment and retention of NHS and social care staff.
The motion without amendment was not
agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new
point after point 2 and renumber accordingly: Regrets that some
Welsh health boards are delaying recruitment due to financial pressures which
is exacerbating poor performance and pressure on frontline staff. A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was not agreed. Amendment 2 - Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete point 4 and
replace with: Recognises the
impact a decade of unjust UK driven austerity has on the resources available to
fund public services including health and social care and believes that
improvements in the NHS can only be sustained in the long run if: a) NHS and social
care work together as equal partners; b) investment
continues across both systems to support people to stay well and out of
hospital; c) there remains a
focus on the recruitment, retention and wellbeing of our health and care
workforce supported by the joint health and social care workforce strategy. A vote was taken on
amendment 2:
Amendment 2 was agreed. As
amendment 2 was agreed, amendments 3 and 4 were deselected. Amendment 5 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at
end of motion: A vote was taken on
amendment 5:
Amendment 5 was agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM7244 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes the latest NHS performance statistics and regrets the continued failure
to achieve performance targets across a range of specialities and services. 2.
Regrets the cancellation of planned operations to deal with winter pressures
and believes it is possible to plan for dealing with winter pressures whilst
ensuring routine procedures continue. 3.
Believes that staff in the NHS and social care should be congratulated for
their performance under difficult circumstances. 4. Recognises the
impact a decade of unjust UK driven austerity has on the resources available to
fund public services including health and social care and believes that
improvements in the NHS can only be sustained in the long run if: a) NHS and social
care work together as equal partners; b) investment
continues across both systems to support people to stay well and out of
hospital; c) there remains a
focus on the recruitment, retention and wellbeing of our health and care
workforce supported by the joint health and social care workforce strategy. 5. Welcomes the
opportunities to invest additional resources into the Welsh NHS and social care
services to boost performance as a result of real terms increases in the Welsh
block grant.
The motion as amended was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
Brexit Party Debate - Fisheries NDM7243 Caroline
Jones (South Wales West) To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales: 1. Recognises the historic importance of
fisheries to Wales. 2. Welcomes the fact that, after years of
inaction, the United Kingdom will leave the European Union at the end of this
week. 3. Calls upon the Welsh and UK Governments
to maximise the benefits to Wales of the Welsh fisheries as we complete the
Brexit process. The following amendments have been tabled: Amendment 1 - Rebecca
Evans (Gower) Delete all and replace with: To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales: 1. Recognises the historic importance of
fisheries to Welsh coastal communities, industries and environment. 2. Calls upon the Welsh Government and UK
Government to take all necessary steps to secure the future of Wales’s
fisheries. [If Amendment 1 is agreed amendments 2 and
3 will be de-selected] Amendment 2 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Delete point 2. [If Amendment 2 is agreed amendment 3 will
be de-selected] Amendment 3 - Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Delete point 2 and replace with: Recognises the significant importance of
the European Union as a destination for Welsh seafood produce and seeks to
ensure that this market remains open and easily accessible in the future. Calls for the UK Government's forthcoming
fisheries bill to ensure that UK and devolved legislation delivers truly
sustainable and accountable fisheries management that minimises the impact on
the marine environment and supports dependent coastal communities. Amendment 4 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Recognises that, upon leaving the EU, we
will leave the Common Fisheries Policy and become an independent coastal state,
taking back control of our waters in December 2020. Amendment 5 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Welcomes the UK Government’s commitment to;
increase funding for fisheries across the UK’s nations throughout the current
parliament, and support the regeneration of our coastal communities. Amendment 6 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to introduce
a new fishing strategy which would be based on the principle of ‘maximum
sustainable yield’, and would legally require the Welsh Government to maintain
fish sustainability for every stock. Minutes: The item started at
18.05 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM7243 Caroline
Jones (South Wales West) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Recognises the historic importance of fisheries to Wales. 2.
Welcomes the fact that, after years of inaction, the United Kingdom will leave
the European Union at the end of this week. 3.
Calls upon the Welsh and UK Governments to maximise the benefits to Wales of
the Welsh fisheries as we complete the Brexit process.
The motion without amendment was not
agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 - Rebecca Evans (Gower) Delete all and
replace with: To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Recognises the
historic importance of fisheries to Welsh coastal communities, industries and
environment. 2. Calls upon the
Welsh Government and UK Government to take all necessary steps to secure the
future of Wales’s fisheries. A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was agreed. As
amendment 1 was agreed, amendments 2 and 3 were de-selected. Amendment 4 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Recognises that, upon leaving the EU, we will leave the Common Fisheries
Policy and become an independent coastal state, taking back control of our
waters in December 2020. A vote was taken on
amendment 4:
Amendment 4 was not agreed. Amendment 5 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end of motion: Welcomes the UK Government’s commitment to; increase funding for
fisheries across the UK’s nations throughout the current parliament, and
support the regeneration of our coastal communities. A vote was taken on
amendment 5:
Amendment 5 was not agreed. Amendment 6 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new point at end motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to introduce a new fishing strategy which
would be based on the principle of ‘maximum sustainable yield’, and would
legally require the Welsh Government to maintain fish sustainability for every
stock. A vote was taken on
amendment 6:
Amendment 6 was not agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM7243 Caroline
Jones (South Wales West) 1. Recognises the
historic importance of fisheries to Welsh coastal communities, industries and
environment. 2. Calls upon the
Welsh Government and UK Government to take all necessary steps to secure the
future of Wales’s fisheries.
The motion as amended was agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: The item started at
18.55 |
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Votes Summary Supporting documents: |
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Short Debate NDM7245 Rhianon
Passmore (Islwyn) Wales and the cultural economy: the
economic benefits of the creative industries and the arts in a creative Wales. Minutes: The item started at
19.02 NDM7245 Rhianon Passmore (Islwyn) Wales and the cultural economy: the
economic benefits of the creative industries and the arts in a creative Wales. |