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Transcript: Transcript for 13/06/2018 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Energy, Planning and Rural Affairs The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 2. Minutes: The item started at
13.30 Questions 1-5, 7
and 8 were asked. Question 6 was withdrawn. Question 3 was answered by the
Minister for Environment. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to
ask questions to the Cabinet Secretary and the Minister for Environment after
question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Local Government and Public Services The
Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice
to the Cabinet Secretary after Question 2. Minutes: The item started at
14.18 The first 7
questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask
questions to the Cabinet Secretary after question 2. |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To ask the Cabinet Secretary for Local Government and Public
Services Mick Antoniw
(Pontypridd): What
assessment has the Cabinet Secretary made of the implications for former Welsh
Miners and their families and communities in Wales of the Scottish Government's
decision to hold an independent enquiry on the impact of policing during the
miners’ strike? Minutes: The item started at
15.12 To ask the Cabinet
Secretary for Local Government and Public Services Mick Antoniw (Pontypridd): What assessment has the Cabinet Secretary
made of the implications for former Welsh Miners and their families and
communities in Wales of the Scottish Government's decision to hold an
independent enquiry on the impact of policing during the miners’ strike? |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The item started at
15.17 Ann Jones made a
statement on Grenfell remembered. Jane Hutt made a
statement on Water fountains campaign in Barry. |
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Motion to elect Members to the Assembly Commission (5 mins) The item started at 15.20 Voting on the
motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time. NDM6744 Elin Jones (Ceredigion) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 7.9, appoints
Neil Hamilton (United Kingdom Independence Party) as a member of the Assembly
Commission in place of Caroline Jones (United Kingdom Independence Party). The result was as
follows:
The
motion was not agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
Debate on the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee report: Life on the streets: preventing and tackling rough sleeping in Wales NDM6736 John
Griffiths (Newport East) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales: Notes the report of the Equality, Local Government and Communities
Committee, 'Life on the streets: preventing and tackling rough sleeping in Wales',
which was laid in the Table Office on 20 April 2018. Note: The response by the Welsh Government was laid
on 6 June 2018. Minutes: The item started at 15.25 NDM6736 John Griffiths (Newport East) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: Notes the report of
the Equality, Local Government and Communities Committee, 'Life on the streets:
preventing and tackling rough sleeping in Wales', which was laid in the Table
Office on 20 April 2018. Note: The response
by the Welsh Government was laid on 6 June 2018 The motion was
agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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(60 mins) |
Welsh Conservatives Debate - Carers NDM6738 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales: 1. Notes that 11 -
17 June is Carers Week 2018. 2. Recognises the
vital contribution made to Welsh society by the roles undertaken by Wales’s
estimated 370,000 unpaid carers of all ages. 3. Calls on the
Welsh Government to implement the Welsh Conservative policy for a young carers
future grant, which would ensure young carers are supported to pursue further
and higher full time education and training opportunities. 4. Calls on the
Welsh Government to publish figures for how many carers' needs have been
assessed since the introduction of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales)
Act 2014 and how many of those assessed needs have been met. 5. Calls on the
Welsh Government to introduce a right to respite for both carers and those they
care for. Social Services and
Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 The following amendments
have been tabled: Amendment 1 - Julie
James (Swansea West) Delete
all after point 2 and replace with: Acknowledges
that the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 gives carers a right
to have their own needs as a carer assessed and for assessed and eligible needs
to be met by local authorities. Welcomes
the Welsh Government’s national priorities for carers and the formation of a
Ministerial Advisory Group on Carers to ensure the implementation of the Social
Services and Well-being Act makes a real difference in the lives of carers in
Wales. [If amendment 1 is agreed,
amendment 2 will be de-selected] Amendment 2 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Delete
point 3 and replace with: Believes
that if the administration of welfare was devolved, the anomalies within the
benefits system that remove support for carers who wish to pursue education and
training can be eradicated. Amendment 3 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Insert
as new point after point 2 and renumber accordingly: Notes
that the labour market for young people, with the proliferation of zero hour
contracts and unpaid internships as part of career pathways, creates barriers
for young carers who wish to pursue paid employment and careers alongside caring
responsibilities. Amendment 4 - Caroline
Jones (South Wales West) Insert
as new point 3 and renumber accordingly: Recognises
that unpaid carers of all ages save the NHS and social services in Wales over
£8bn per year, yet a vast majority of carers feel their contribution is not
valued or understood. Amendment 5 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to set milestones for the young carers advisory group
and provide regular updates to Assembly Members on their progress. Amendment 6 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to ensure consistency across all parts of Wales in the roll-out
of a young carers’ card, which should include access to discounted transport. Amendment 7 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to clarify how much of the proposed £3 million funding
for carers’ respite will be allocated to young carers. Amendment 8 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to ensure all pharmacies are implementing the guidance
on allowing young carers to pick up prescription medication on behalf of those
they care for. Amendment 9 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add
as new point at end of motion: Calls
on the Welsh Government to ensure young carers receive appropriate training in
the administering of medication for those they care for. Minutes: The item started at
16.18 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM6738 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that 11 - 17 June is Carers Week 2018. 2.
Recognises the vital contribution made to Welsh society by the roles undertaken
by Wales’s estimated 370,000 unpaid carers of all ages. 3.
Calls on the Welsh Government to implement the Welsh Conservative policy for a
young carers future grant, which would ensure young carers are supported to
pursue further and higher full time education and training opportunities. 4.
Calls on the Welsh Government to publish figures for how many carers' needs
have been assessed since the introduction of the Social Services and Well-being
(Wales) Act 2014 and how many of those assessed needs have been met. 5.
Calls on the Welsh Government to introduce a right to respite for both carers
and those they care for.
The
motion without amendment was not agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 - Julie James (Swansea West) Delete all after
point 2 and replace with: Acknowledges that
the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 gives carers a right to
have their own needs as a carer assessed and for assessed and eligible needs to
be met by local authorities. Welcomes the Welsh
Government’s national priorities for carers and the formation of a Ministerial
Advisory Group on Carers to ensure the implementation of the Social Services
and Well-being Act makes a real difference in the lives of carers in Wales. A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
Amendment
1 was agreed. As
Amendment 1 was agreed, Amendment 2 was de-selected. Amendment 3 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Insert as new point after point 2 and renumber accordingly: Notes that the labour market for young people, with the proliferation of
zero hour contracts and unpaid internships as part of career pathways, creates
barriers for young carers who wish to pursue paid employment and careers
alongside caring responsibilities. A vote was taken on
amendment 3:
Amendment
3 was not agreed. Amendment 4 - Caroline Jones (South Wales West) Insert as new point 3 and renumber accordingly: Recognises that unpaid carers of all ages save the NHS and social
services in Wales over £8bn per year, yet a vast majority of carers feel their
contribution is not valued or understood A vote was taken on
amendment 4:
Amendment
4 was agreed. Amendment 5 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to set milestones for the young carers
advisory group and provide regular updates to Assembly Members on their
progress. A vote was taken on
amendment 5:
Amendment
5 was not agreed. Amendment 6 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure consistency across all parts of
Wales in the roll-out of a young carers’ card, which should include access to
discounted transport. A vote was taken on
amendment 6:
Amendment
6 was agreed. Amendment 7 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to clarify how much of the proposed £3
million funding for carers’ respite will be allocated to young carers. A vote was taken on
amendment 7:
Amendment
7 was not agreed. Amendment 8 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure all pharmacies are implementing
the guidance on allowing young carers to pick up prescription medication on
behalf of those they care for. A vote was taken on
amendment 8:
Amendment
8 was agreed. Amendment 9 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) Add as new point at end of motion: Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure young carers receive appropriate
training in the administering of medication for those they care for. A vote was taken on
amendment 9:
Amendment
9 was agreed. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Notes that 11 - 17 June is Carers Week 2018. 2.
Recognises the vital contribution made to Welsh society by the roles undertaken
by Wales’s estimated 370,000 unpaid carers of all ages. 3. Recognises that unpaid carers of all ages save the NHS and social services
in Wales over £8bn per year, yet a vast majority of carers feel their
contribution is not valued or understood 4. Acknowledges
that the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 gives carers a right
to have their own needs as a carer assessed and for assessed and eligible needs
to be met by local authorities. 5. Welcomes the
Welsh Government’s national priorities for carers and the formation of a
Ministerial Advisory Group on Carers to ensure the implementation of the Social
Services and Well-being Act makes a real difference in the lives of carers in
Wales. 6. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure consistency across all parts
of Wales in the roll-out of a young carers’ card, which should include access
to discounted transport. 7. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure all pharmacies are
implementing the guidance on allowing young carers to pick up prescription
medication on behalf of those they care for. 8. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure young carers receive
appropriate training in the administering of medication for those they care
for.
The
motion as amended was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
Plaid Cymru debate - School Funding NDM6739 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1. Recognises the funding crisis in Welsh schools. 2. Notes its impact on teacher workloads, staff morale and availability
of school resources which, in turn, has a detrimental impact on children’s
education. 3. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) bring together key stakeholders in the education system to consider
alternative funding models for schools; b) maximise transparency and minimise bureaucracy in school funding; and c) ensure that all schools have sufficient funding to deliver a high
quality education for all pupils. The following amendments
have been tabled: Amendment 1 - Julie
James (Swansea West) Delete
all and replace with: Notes
that to support schools and raise standards the Welsh Government is a)
providing an additional £36 m to reduce infant class sizes; b)
supporting the creation of new school business managers to reduce unnecessary
workload and allowing heads to focus on school standards; c) working with the profession to reduce
classroom bureaucracy as well as boosting professional learning; d)
proposing to use the devolution of teachers’ pay and conditions as an
opportunity to elevate the status of the teaching profession; and e)
investing over £90m in the Pupil Development Grant to support Wales’ most disadvantaged
learners. [If amendment 1 is agreed,
amendment 3 will be de-selected] Amendment 2 - Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) Insert
as new point 3 and renumber accordingly: Notes
that the agreement between the Welsh Government and the UK Government on the
Welsh Government’s fiscal framework delivers around £1.20 of funding for Wales
for every £1 spent on education in England. Amendment 3 - Caroline
Jones (South Wales West) Delete
point 3 and replace with: Calls
on the Welsh Government to bring together key stakeholders in the education
system to consider: a)
the way funding is allocated; and b)
the ways that budgets allocated to local authorities, consortia and schools can
be streamlined and simplified to reduce bureaucracy and make more effective use
of the overall educational budget. Minutes: The item started at
17.22 Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time. A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM6739
Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn) To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales: 1.
Recognises the funding crisis in Welsh schools. 2.
Notes its impact on teacher workloads, staff morale and availability of school resources
which, in turn, has a detrimental impact on children’s education. 3.
Calls on the Welsh Government to: a)
bring together key stakeholders in the education system to consider alternative
funding models for schools; b)
maximise transparency and minimise bureaucracy in school funding; and c)
ensure that all schools have sufficient funding to deliver a high quality
education
The
motion without amendment was not agreed. The
following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 - Julie James (Swansea West) Delete all and
replace with: Notes that to
support schools and raise standards the Welsh Government is a) providing an
additional £36 m to reduce infant class sizes; b) supporting the
creation of new school business managers to reduce unnecessary workload and
allowing heads to focus on school standards; c) working with the profession to reduce classroom
bureaucracy as well as boosting professional learning; d) proposing to use
the devolution of teachers’ pay and conditions as an opportunity to elevate the
status of the teaching profession; and e) investing over
£90m in the Pupil Development Grant to support Wales’ most disadvantaged
learners. A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
Amendment
1 was agreed. Amendment 2 - Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire) Insert as new point
3 and renumber accordingly: Notes that the
agreement between the Welsh Government and the UK Government on the Welsh
Government’s fiscal framework delivers around £1.20 of funding for Wales for
every £1 spent on education in England. A vote was taken on
amendment 2:
Amendment
2 was not agreed. As
Amendment 1 was agreed, Amendment 3 was de-selected. A
vote was taken on the motion as amended: Notes that to
support schools and raise standards the Welsh Government is a) providing an
additional £36 m to reduce infant class sizes; b) supporting the
creation of new school business managers to reduce unnecessary workload and
allowing heads to focus on school standards; c) working with the profession to reduce
classroom bureaucracy as well as boosting professional learning; d) proposing to use
the devolution of teachers’ pay and conditions as an opportunity to elevate the
status of the teaching profession; and e) investing over
£90m in the Pupil Development Grant to support Wales’ most disadvantaged
learners.
The
motion as amended was agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: The item started at
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate NDM6737 Sian
Gwenllian (Arfon) Assembly Member job-sharing: Would allowing Assembly Members to job
share lead to the creation of a gender-balanced Assembly and one that is more
representative of the population as a whole? Minutes: The item started at
18.22 NDM6737 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) Assembly Member
job-sharing: Would allowing Assembly Members to job share lead to the creation
of a gender-balanced Assembly and one that is more representative of the
population. |