Agenda item
Tax Collection and Management (Wales) Bill: Stage 2 scrutiny
- Meeting of Finance Committee - Fourth Assembly, Thursday, 28 January 2016 09.00 (Item 4.)
- View the background to item 4.
In
accordance with Standing Order 26.21 the Committee will dispose of amendments
to the Bill in the following order:
Sections: 2 – 34, 36 – 79, 35, 81 – 114, 80, 116 – 154, 115,
155 – 161, 162 – 168, 170 – 182, 169, 183 – 185, 186 – 193; Schedule; Section
1; Long Title.
In attendance:
Jane
Hutt AM – Minister for Finance and Government Business
Sean
Bradley – Senior Lawyer, Welsh Government
Richard
Clarke – Tax Administration Project Manager, Welsh Government
Supporting documents:
Paper
8 – Marshalled List of Amendments
Paper
9 – Groupings of Amendments
Paper
10 – Purpose and Effect of Amendments tabled by Welsh Government – 18 January
2016
Tax
Collection and Management (Wales) Bill, as introduced (PDF, 488KB)
Explanatory
Memorandum (PDF, 1MB)
Minutes:
4.1
In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the
following amendments to the Bill:
Amendment 91(Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
91 was not agreed. |
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As
amendment 91 was not agreed, amendments 92, 93, 94, 95 and 96 (Nick
Ramsay) fell.
Amendment 24 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
24 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 75 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 25 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
25 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 26 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 26 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 76 (Jane Hutt)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Christine Chapman |
Nick Ramsay |
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Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
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Amendment
76 was agreed. |
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As
amendment 76 was agreed, amendment 27 (Nick Ramsay) fell.
As
amendment 25 was not agreed, amendment 28 (Nick Ramsay) fell.
Amendment 1 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 29 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 29 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 77 (Jane Hutt)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Christine Chapman |
Nick Ramsay |
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Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
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Amendment
77 was agreed. |
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Amendment 30 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 30 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 78 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 79 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 31 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
31 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 32 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
Jocelyn Davies |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Amendment
32 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 80 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 33 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
Jocelyn Davies |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Amendment
33 was not agreed. |
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As
amendment 33 was not agreed, amendments 34 and 35 fell.
Amendment 36 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
36 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 37 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
37 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 38 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
38 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 81 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendments 82, 83 and 84
(Jane Hutt)
were disposed of en bloc and were agreed in accordance with Standing Order
17.34(i).
Amendment 39 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
Jocelyn Davies |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Amendment
39 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 40 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
40 was not agreed. |
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As
amendment 40 was not agreed, amendment 41 (Nick Ramsay) fell.
Amendment 42 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
42 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 43 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
43 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 44 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
44 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 45 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
45 was not agreed. |
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Amendments 85 and 86 (Jane
Hutt) were
disposed of en bloc and were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 46 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
46 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 47 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
47 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 48 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
48 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 49 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
49 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 50 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 50 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 87 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 51 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 51 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 52 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 52 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 21 (Peter Black)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
21 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 22 (Peter Black)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 22 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 53 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 53 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 54 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 54 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 55 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
55 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 2 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 74 (Peter Black) was withdrawn in
accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).
Amendment 56 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
56 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 57 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
57 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 58 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
58 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 59 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
59 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 60 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 60 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 3A (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
3A was not agreed. |
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Amendment 3 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendments 4 and 5 (Jane Hutt) were disposed of en bloc and were agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 6A (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
6A was not agreed. |
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Amendment 6 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 7 (Jane Hutt)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Christine Chapman |
Nick Ramsay |
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Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
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Amendment
7 was agreed. |
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Amendment 61A (Peter
Black)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Christine Chapman |
Nick Ramsay |
Alun Ffred Jones |
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Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Peter Black |
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Amendment
61A was agreed. |
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Amendment 61, as amended, (Nick Ramsay) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 62 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 62 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 63 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
63 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 64 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
64 was not agreed. |
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As amendment 63 was not agreed, amendments 65 and 66 (Nick Ramsay) fell.
Amendment 67 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 67 was not agreed. |
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As
amendment 63 was not agreed, amendments 68 and 69 (Nick Ramsay) fell.
Amendment 70 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
70 was not agreed. |
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Amendments 8 and 9 (Jane
Hutt) were
disposed of en bloc and were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 71 (Nick Ramsay)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Amendment
71 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 10 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 88 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 11 (Jane Hutt) was agreed in accordance
with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 12 (Jane Hutt)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
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Christine Chapman |
Nick Ramsay |
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Julie Morgan |
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Mike Hedges |
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Ann Jones |
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Jocelyn Davies |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
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Peter Black |
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Amendment
12 was agreed. |
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Amendments 13, 14, 15, 16,
17 18 and 19 (Jane Hutt) were
disposed of en bloc and agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 23 (Peter Black)
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In
Favour |
Against |
Abstain |
|
Nick Ramsay |
Christine Chapman |
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Peter Black |
Julie Morgan |
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Jocelyn Davies |
Mike Hedges |
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Alun Ffred Jones |
Ann Jones |
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As the
vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance
with SO 6.20(ii)).Therefore amendment 23 was not agreed. |
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Amendments 89, 90 and 20 were disposed of en bloc
and agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).
As
amendment 31 was not agreed, amendment 72 (Nick Ramsay) fell.
Supporting documents:
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FIN(4)-03-16 P8 Marshalled List of Amendments, item 4.
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FIN(4)-03-16 P9 Groupings of Amendments, item 4.
PDF 269 KB
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FIN(4)-03-16 P10 Purpose and Effect of Amendments tabled by Welsh Government – 18 January 2016, item 4.
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