Agenda item

Historic Environment (Wales) Bill - consideration of amendments

In accordance with Standing Order 26.21 the Committee will dispose of amendments to the Bill in the following order:

Section 3, Schedule 1, sections 4 to 22, section 2, section 24, Schedule 2, sections 25 to 32, section 23, sections 33 to 41, section 1, Long title.

Supporting documents:

Marshalled List of Amendments, 26 November 2015

Groupings of Amendments, 26 November 2015

In attendance:

Ken Skates AM, Deputy Minister for Culture, Sport and Tourism

Angharad Huws, Bill Manager, Cadw

Eifiona Williams, Legal Services, Welsh Government

Minutes:

2.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

Amendment 1 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendments 2, 3 and 4 (Ken Skates) were disposed of en bloc and were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 49 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 49 was not agreed.

Amendment 50 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 50 was not agreed.

Amendment 51 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 51 was not agreed.

Amendment 64 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman	Bethan Jenkins
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies	Rhodri Glyn Thomas
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 64 was not agreed.

Amendment 65 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman	Bethan Jenkins
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies	Rhodri Glyn Thomas
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 65 was not agreed.

Amendment 66 (Suzy Davies) was not moved.

Amendment 79 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 79 was not agreed.

Amendment 5 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 6 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 7 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 40 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 40 was not agreed.

Amendment 8 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

As amendment 8 was agreed, amendment 41 (Peter Black) fell.

Amendment 28 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 9 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 8 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 10 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 52 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 52 was not agreed.

Amendment 71 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 71 was not agreed.

Amendment 40 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 40 was not agreed.

Amendment 80 (Bethan Jenkins) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

Amendment 70 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 70 was not agreed.

Amendment 11 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 12 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 53 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 53 was not agreed.

Amendment 81 (Bethan Jenkins) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

Amendment 82 (Bethan Jenkins) was not moved.

Amendments 67, 68 and 69 (Suzy Davies) were disposed of en bloc

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendments 67, 68 and 69 were not agreed.

Amendment 13 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 14 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 83 (Bethan Jenkins) was not moved.

Amendment 15 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 84 (Bethan Jenkins) was not moved.

Amendments 16, 17 and 18 (Ken Skates) were disposed of en bloc and were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 54 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 54 was not agreed.

Amendment 73 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 73 was not agreed.

Amendment 74 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 74 was not agreed.

Amendment 19 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 45 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 45 was not agreed.

Amendment 20 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

As amendment 20 was agreed, amendment 46 (Peter Black) fell.

Amendment 29 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 55 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 55 was not agreed.

Amendment 85 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 85 was not agreed.

Amendments 21, 22 and 23 (Ken Skates) were disposed of en bloc and were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 56 (Suzy Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 57 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 57 was not agreed.

Amendment 75 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 75 was not agreed.

Amendment 76 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 76 was not agreed.

Amendment 86 (Bethan Jenkins) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

Amendment 77 (Peter Black) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

Amendment 78 (Peter Black) was not moved.

Amendment 98 (Darren Millar)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 98 was not agreed.

Amendment 42 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 42 was not agreed.

Amendment 72 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 72 was not agreed.

Amendment 30 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 31 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 87 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 87 was not agreed.

As amendment 87 was not agreed, amendment 88 (Bethan Jenkins) fell.

Amendments 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 and 38 (Ken Skates) were disposed of en bloc and were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 89 (Bethan Jenkins) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 90 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 90 was not agreed.

Amendment 24 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 92 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 92 was not agreed.

Amendment 90 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black	Christine Chapman
Suzy Davies	Alun Davies
Mark Isherwood	Mike Hedges
Bethan Jenkins	John Griffiths
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 90 was not agreed.

Amendment 91 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
	Peter Black
Amendment 91 was not agreed.

Amendment 58 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 58 was not agreed.

Amendment 47 (Peter Black) was not moved.

Amendment 59 (Suzy Davies) was not moved.

Amendment 93 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
	Peter Black
Amendment 93 was not agreed.

Amendment 94 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 94 was not agreed.

Amendment 95 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 95 was not agreed.

Amendment 97 (Bethan Jenkins)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 97 was not agreed.

Amendment 60 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 60 was not agreed.

Amendment 26 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 61 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 61 was not agreed.

As amendments 86, 93 and 95 were not agreed, amendment 96 (Bethan Jenkins) fell.

Amendment 62 (Suzy Davies) was not moved.

Amendment 48 (Peter Black)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 48 was not agreed.

Amendment 39 (Ken Skates) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 63 (Suzy Davies)

In favour	Against	Abstain
Peter Black
Suzy Davies	Christine Chapman
Mark Isherwood	Alun Davies
Bethan Jenkins	Mike Hedges
Rhodri Glyn Thomas	John Griffiths
	Gwyn Price
As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)). Therefore amendment 63 was not agreed.

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