Agenda and minutes

Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee (Hybrid) - Thursday, 11 December 2025 09.15

Venue: Committee Room 4 - Tŷ Hywel. View directions

Contact: Manon George 

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Transcript: Transcript for 11/12/2025 - Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(09.15)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1        The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting.

1.2        Apologies were received from Joyce Watson MS and Jenny Rathbone MS substituted.

(09.15-15.30)

2.

Environment (Principles, Governance and Biodiversity Targets) (Wales) Bill - Stage 2 Proceedings

Huw Irranca-Davies MS, Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Climate Change and Rural Affairs

Naomi Matthiessen, Bill Senior Responsible Owner and Policy lead for Governance and Principles, Deputy Director, Landscapes, Nature and Forestry Division - Welsh Government

Alice Teague, Deputy Director, Marine and Biodiversity Division, Policy lead for Biodiversity - Welsh Government

Dorian Brunt, Lead Lawyer, Legal Services, Environment (Principles, Governance and Biodiversity Targets) (Wales) Bill Lead Lawyer - Welsh Government

 

Documents relevant to Stage 2 proceedings will be available on the Bill page.

 

The Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee agreed on 20 November 2025, under Standing Order 26.21, that the order of consideration for Stage 2 proceedings would be:

 

Sections 1-8; Schedule 1; Sections 9-10; Schedule 2; Sections 11-28; Schedule 3; Sections 29-43; Schedule 4; Sections 44-45; Long Title.

Minutes:

Amendment 165 (Delyth Jewell MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders MS

Carolyn Thomas MS

 

Delyth Jewell MS

Julie Morgan MS

 

Llyr Gruffydd MS

Jenny Rathbone MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 165 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 55 (Janet Finch-Saunders MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders MS

Delyth Jewell MS

 

 

Llyr Gruffydd MS

 

 

Carolyn Thomas MS

 

 

Julie Morgan MS

 

 

Jenny Rathbone MS

 

Amendment 55 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 56 (Janet Finch-Saunders MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders MS

Delyth Jewell MS

 

 

Llyr Gruffydd MS

 

 

Carolyn Thomas MS

 

 

Julie Morgan MS

 

 

Jenny Rathbone MS

 

Amendment 56 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 3 (Huw Irranca-Davies MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 4 (Huw Irranca-Davies MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 121 (Delyth Jewell MS) was not moved.

Amendment 5 (Huw Irranca-Davies MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 6 (Huw Irranca-Davies MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 122 (Delyth Jewell MS) was not moved.

 

Amendment 123 (Delyth Jewell MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders MS

Carolyn Thomas MS

 

Delyth Jewell MS

Julie Morgan MS

 

Llyr Gruffydd MS

Jenny Rathbone MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 123 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 124 (Delyth Jewell MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders MS

Carolyn Thomas MS

 

Delyth Jewell MS

Julie Morgan MS

 

Llyr Gruffydd MS

Jenny Rathbone MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 124 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 125 (Delyth Jewell MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders MS

Carolyn Thomas MS

 

Delyth Jewell MS

Julie Morgan MS

 

Llyr Gruffydd MS

Jenny Rathbone MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 125 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 7 (Huw Irranca-Davies MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 8 (Huw Irranca-Davies MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 50 (Carolyn Thomas MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 51 (Carolyn Thomas MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 9 (Huw Irranca-Davies MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Carolyn Thomas MS

 

 

Julie Morgan MS

 

 

Jenny Rathbone MS

 

 

Janet Finch-Saunders MS

 

 

Delyth Jewell MS

 

 

Llyr Gruffydd MS

 

 

Amendment 9 was agreed.

 

As amendment 9 was agreed, amendment 57 (Janet Finch-Saunders MS) fell.

Amendment 10 (Huw Irranca-Davies MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 58 (Janet Finch-Saunders MS)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Janet Finch-Saunders MS

Carolyn Thomas MS

 

Delyth Jewell MS

Julie Morgan MS

 

Llyr Gruffydd MS

Jenny Rathbone MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 58 was not agreed.

 

Amendment  ...  view the full minutes text for item 2.

(15.30)

3.

Papers to note

Minutes:

3.1 The papers were noted.

3.1

Bus Services (Wales) Bill

Supporting documents:

3.2

UK Emissions Trading Scheme

Supporting documents:

3.3

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2026-27

Supporting documents:

3.4

Wales Flood and Coastal Erosion Committee's 'Flood Insurance - a Wales Perspective' consultation report

Supporting documents:

3.5

Restoration of opencast mining sites

Supporting documents:

3.6

Marine biodiversity

Supporting documents:

3.7

Inter-Ministerial Group for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

Supporting documents:

(15.30)

4.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting

Minutes:

4.1 The motion was agreed.

5.

Consideration of draft report on the Welsh Government Draft Budget 2026-27

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

5.1 The Committee considered and agreed its draft report.

 

 

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