Agenda and minutes

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Contact: Helen Finlayson 

Expected timing: Hybrid 

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Transcript: Transcript for 10/02/2022 - Health and Social Care Committee

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(09.30)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting.

1.2 Gareth Davies MS declared that he is a member of Denbighshire County Council until May 2022.

(09.30-10.30)

2.

Hospital discharge and its impact on patient flow through hospitals: evidence session with local authorities

Nicola Stubbins, Immediate Past President of ADSS Cymru and Director of Social Services – Denbighshire County Council

Councillor Susan Elsmore, Welsh Local Government Association Deputy Spokesperson for Health and Social Care and Cabinet Member for Social Care, Health and Wellbeing - Cardiff Council

Allison Hulmes, National Director Wales, British Association of Social Workers


Research brief

Paper 1 - Welsh Local Government Association and the Association of Directors of Social Services Cymru

Paper 2 –British Association of Social Workers

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 The Committee received evidence from representatives of local authorities.

(10.45-11.30)

3.

Hospital discharge and its impact on patient flow through hospitals: evidence session with Care Forum Wales

Mary Wimbury, Chief Executive – Care Forum Wales

Mario Kreft, Chair - Care Forum Wales

Sanjiv Joshi, Treasurer - Care Forum Wales


Paper 3 – Care Forum Wales

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3.1 The Committee received evidence from representatives of Care Forum Wales.

(11.30)

4.

Paper(s) to note

4.1

Response from the Minister for Health and Social Services to the reports of the Health and Social Care Committee and the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee on the Legislative Consent Memorandum for the Health and Care Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

4.1 The Committee noted the response.

(11.30)

5.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from items 6, 8, 9 and 10 of today's meeting

Minutes:

5.1 The Committee agreed the motion.

(11.30-11.45)

6.

Hospital discharge and its impact on patient flow through hospitals: consideration of evidence

Minutes:

6.1 The Committee considered the evidence received.

(12.30-14.45)

7.

Impact of the waiting times backlog on people in Wales who are waiting for diagnosis or treatment and Scrutiny of the Welsh Government’s Health and Social Care Winter Plan 2021 to 2022: evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services

Eluned Morgan MS, Minister for Health and Social Services

Judith Paget, Director General for Health and Social Services and Chief Executive of NHS Wales – Welsh Government

Andrew Sallows, Delivery Programme Director – Welsh Government

Chris Jones, Deputy Chief Medical Officer – Welsh Government


Research brief

Paper 4 – Welsh Government on waiting times

Paper 5 – Welsh Government on winter planning

Paper 6 – report from the Senedd's Citizen Engagement Team on the impact of the waiting times backlog on people in Wales who are waiting for diagnosis or treatment

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

7.1 The Committee received evidence from the Minister for Health and Social Services.
7.2 Judith Paget agreed to share information regarding surgical capacity across health boards with the Committee.

7.3 The Minister for Health and Social Services agreed to share the findings of the review of demand and capacity in neurodevelopmental services with the Committee in due course.

7.4 The Minister for Health and Social Services agreed to provide the Committee with an update on the use of COVID passes.

(14.45-15.00)

8.

Impact of the waiting times backlog on people in Wales who are waiting for diagnosis or treatment and Scrutiny of the Welsh Government’s Health and Social Care Winter Plan 2021 to 2022: consideration of evidence

Minutes:

8.1 The Committee considered the evidence received. The Committee identified areas for inclusion in its report on waiting times, and agreed to write separately to the Minister in respect of winter planning.

(15.00-15.15)

9.

Legislative Consent Memorandum for the Nationality and Borders Bill: consideration of draft report

Paper 7 – draft report

Written evidence

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

9.1 The Committee agreed the report subject to minor amendments.

(15.15-15.30)

10.

Supplementary Legislative Consent Memoranda for the Health and Care Bill: consideration of draft report

Paper 8 – draft report
Paper 9 - Supplementary Legislative Consent Memorandum (Memorandum No 2) for the Health and Care Bill
Paper 10 - Supplementary Legislative Consent Memorandum (Memorandum No 3) for the Health and Care Bill
Paper 11 – legal advice note for the Supplementary Legislative Consent Memorandum (Memorandum No 2) for the Health and Care Bill

Paper 12 - legal advice note for the Supplementary Legislative Consent Memorandum (Memorandum No 3) for the Health and Care Bill

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

10.1 The Committee agreed the report subject to minor amendments.