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Transcript: Transcript for 11/01/2024 - Children, Young People and Education Committee

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(09.30)

1.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Children, Young People and Education Committee.

1.2 Apologies were received from Buffy Williams MS and Heledd Fychan MS, Vikki Howells MS substituted for Buffy for items 1 to 4 and Rhun Ap Iorwerth MS substituted for Heledd for items 1 to 5.

1.3 Under Standing Order 17.24A Rhun Ap Iorwerth MS declared he was a designated Member with regard to the co-operation agreement.

(09.30 - 11.00)

2.

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2024-25 - evidence session 1

Eluned Morgan MS, Minister for Health and Social Services

Julie Morgan MS, Deputy Minister for Social Services

Lynne Neagle MS, Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing

Hywel Jones, Director of Finance, Health and Social Services Group, Welsh Government

Amelia John, Interim Director, Communities and Tackling Poverty, Welsh Government

Albert Heaney, Chief Social Care Officer for Wales, Welsh Government

Irfon Rees, Director of Health and Wellbeing, Welsh Government

Alex Slade, Director of Primary Care and Mental Health, Welsh Government

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Minutes:

2.1 The Committee scrutinised the Minister and Deputy Ministers.

2.2 The Minister agreed to provide further information on how the NHS planning framework supports ring-fencing of funding for children and young people.

2.3 The Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing agreed to provide the following:

- Minutes from the Whole School Approach Delivery Board meetings.

- Further information on the modelling work that the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee is undertaking regarding mental health services when it is available.

- Further information on Public Health Wales’s evaluation of the all-Wales diabetes prevention programme for children and families pilot projects.

2.4 The Deputy Minister for Social Services agreed to provide a note on the £19 million allocation to Regional Partnership Boards for children services is being used.

(11.00)

3.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from items 4 and 8 of this meeting

Minutes:

3.1 The motion was agreed.

(11.00 - 11.10)

4.

Welsh Government Draft Budget 2024-25 - consideration of the evidence

Minutes:

4.1 The Committee considered the evidence it has heard in the previous session.

(11.10 - 12.00)

5.

Residential Outdoor (Wales) Bill - evidence session 4

Chris Parry, President, National Secretary Wales, National Association of Head Teachers Union (NAHT) Cymru

Laura Doel, National Secretary Wales, National Association of Head Teachers Union (NAHT) Cymru

Catherine Falcus, Education and Leadership Policy Officer, Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) Cymru

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Minutes:

5.1 The Committee heard evidence from the Head Teaching Unions.

 

(12.05 - 13.00)

6.

Residential Outdoor (Wales) Bill - evidence session 5

Mary van den Heuvel, Senior Policy Officer Wales, National Education Union (NEU)

Urtha Felda, Policy and Casework Official, NASUWT

Ioan Rhys Jones, General Secretary, Undeb Cenedlaethol Athrawon Cymru (UCAC)

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Minutes:

6.1 The Committee heard evidence from the Teaching Unions.

6.2 Mary van den Heuvel declared an interest as a committee member for Wales of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

(13.00 - 13.05)

7.

Papers to note

Minutes:

7.1 The papers were noted.

7.2 Members agreed to write to the Deputy Minister for Social Services for clarification regarding a few of areas in paper to note 17.

7.1

Scrutiny of the Children's Commissioner for Wales

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7.2

Peer on peer sexual harassment among learners

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7.3

General scrutiny of the Minister for Education and Welsh Language

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7.4

Information from Stakeholders

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7.5

Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform

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7.6

General scrutiny of the Minister for Education and Welsh Language

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7.7

Welsh Government White Paper on Ending Homelessness in Wales

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7.8

P-06-1359 Offer Welsh working parents the same financial support for childcare as England & Petition P-06-1362 Match the new childcare offer in England of 15 hours for 2 year old's from April 2024

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7.9

Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform

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7.10

Scrutiny session with Social Care Wales

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7.11

Care Inspectorate Wales: Annual Scrutiny

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7.12

Scrutiny sessions with Social Care Wales and Care Inspectorate Wales

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7.13

Child Poverty

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7.14

Information from Stakeholders

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7.15

Mental Health support in Higher Education

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7.16

Do disabled children and young people have equal access to education and childcare?

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7.17

Services for care experienced children: exploring radical reform

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7.18

Childcare and parental employment

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(13.00 - 13.15)

8.

Residential Outdoor (Wales) Bill - consideration of the evidence

Minutes:

8.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard in the previous sessions.