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Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Hybrid) - Wednesday, 2 April 2025 09.30

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Transcript: Transcript for 02/04/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee

Items
Expected timing	No.	Item
09.15 - 09.30	1.	Routes into post-16 education and training - Discussion with the Citizen Engagement Team about engagement findings View the reasons why item 1. is restricted View the background to item 1. Minutes: 1.1 The Committee received a presentation from the Citizen Engagement Manager on findings of the surveys that the Citizen Engagement Team had undertook on behalf of the Committee for the inquiry.
09.30	2.	Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest View the background to item 2. Minutes: 2.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting of the Children, Young People and Education Committee. 2.2 Carolyn Thomas sent her apologies for items 5 to 8 and Cefin Campbell for items 7 and 8.
09.30 - 11.30	3.	Routes into post-16 education and training - evidence session 10 View the background to item 3. Lynne Neagle MS, Cabinet Secretary for Education Vikki Howells MS, Minister for Further and Higher Education Jack Sargeant MS, Minister for Culture, Skills and Social Partnership Hannah Wharf, Deputy Director, Support for Learners, Welsh Government Ruth Meadows, Director of Tertiary Education, Welsh Government Jo Salway, Director, Social Partnership, Employability & Fair Work, Welsh Government Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 6 View the reasons why document 3./1 is restricted Welsh Government , item 3. PDF 228 KB Minutes: 3.1 The Committee heard evidence from the Cabinet Secretary and Ministers. 3.2 The Minister for Culture, Skills and Social Partnership agreed to provide a note on: - The education business partnership run by Careers Wales. - The work Careers Wales is doing on work experience and the scale of how much it can deliver. 3.3 The Minister for Culture, Skills and Social Partnership also agreed to ask Medr to consider issuing the Committee with data about foundation and higher apprenticeship starts alongside anticipated future trends in apprenticeship provision. 3.4 The Cabinet Secretary for Education agreed to provide a note on the work currently being undertaken by the Welsh Government and partners regarding junior apprenticeships, including the work being undertaken by Medr, and timelines for any future expansion of the programme. 3.5 The Minister for Further and Higher Education agreed to provide a note on: - Data on the number of Welsh-domiciled young people who put a Welsh university as their first choice university, if available. - The different scholarships that are available to learners to study through the medium of Welsh. - The timeline for developing an integrated, comprehensive strategy for education and vocational training. 3.4 The Committee agreed to send the questions unasked for a written response.
11.30	4.	Papers to note View the background to item 4. Minutes: 4.1 The papers were noted.
	4.1	Legislative Consent: Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill View the background to item 4.1 Supporting documents: Letter to the Llywydd and Chair of Business Committee from the Chair of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee , item 4.1 PDF 106 KB
	4.2	Legislative Consent: Border Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill View the background to item 4.2 Supporting documents: Letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Who from the Chair of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee , item 4.2 PDF 103 KB
	4.3	Children on the margins View the background to item 4.3 Supporting documents: Briefing note from Crisis , item 4.3 PDF 295 KB
	4.4	P-06-1507 We call on UWTSD and the Welsh Government to create a viable, sustainable plan for the long-term future of Lampeter campus View the background to item 4.4 Supporting documents: Letter to the Chair of the Children, Young People and Education Committee from the Chair of the Petitions Committee , item 4.4 PDF 214 KB
	4.5	Review of the Public Bill and Member Bill processes View the background to item 4.5 Supporting documents: Letter to the Llywydd from the Chair of the Children, Young People and Education Committee , item 4.5 PDF 106 KB
	4.6	Issues facing the Higher Education Sector View the background to item 4.6 Supporting documents: Letter to the Chair of the Children, Young People and Education Committee from Cytûn: Churches Together in Wales , item 4.6 PDF 204 KB
	4.7	Legislative Consent: Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill View the background to item 4.7 Supporting documents: Email correspondence to the Children, Young People and Education Committee from Education Otherwise , item 4.7 PDF 202 KB
	4.8	Legislative Consent: Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill View the background to item 4.8 Supporting documents: Email correspondence to the Children, Young People and Education Committee from Home Ed Cymru , item 4.8 PDF 69 KB
11.30	5.	Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting and for the whole of the meeting on 8, 14 and 21 May View the background to item 5. Minutes: 5.1 The motion was agreed.
11.40 - 12.00	6.	Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the evidence View the background to item 6. Minutes: 6.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard during the previous session and throughout the inquiry. It agreed to write to some stakeholder for some further information.
12.00 - 12.15	7.	Legislative Consent: Border Security, Asylum and Immigration Bill - consideration of the evidence View the background to item 7. Supporting documents: The Refugee and Migrant Children’s Consortium , item 7. PDF 211 KB National Youth Advocacy Service (NYAS) , item 7. PDF 228 KB Children's Legal Centre Wales , item 7. PDF 34 KB Bevan Foundation , item 7. PDF 658 KB Welsh Local Government Association , item 7. PDF 268 KB Minutes: 7.1 The Committee considered the evidence received. Due to reporting deadlines the draft report would be circulated and agreed electronically.
12.15 - 12.30	8.	Legislative Consent: Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill View the background to item 8. Supporting documents: Restricted enclosure 31 View the reasons why document 8./1 is restricted Restricted enclosure 32 View the reasons why document 8./2 is restricted Minutes: 8.1 The Committee considered the Legislative Consent on the Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill. It agreed to write to the Cabinet Secretary for Education and the Children’s Commissioner for Wales for some further information.

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