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Transcript: Transcript for 02/12/2025 - Plenary

Items
Expected timing No. Item

This meeting was held in a hybrid format, with some Members in Siambr Hywel, TŷHywel and others joining by video-conference.

(45 mins)

1.

Questions to the First Minister

The Presiding Officer will call party leaders to ask questions without notice to the First Minister after Question 2.

 

View Questions

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

The item started at 13.30

The first 9 questions were asked. Questions 6 and 8 were grouped together for answer. The Presiding Officer invited party leaders to ask questions to the First Minister after question 2.

(30 mins)

2.

Business Statement and Announcement

Minutes:

The item started at 14.26

(45 mins)

3.

Statement by the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Trefnydd and Chief Whip: International Day of Disabled People

Minutes:

The item started at 14.44

(45 mins)

Proposal under Standing Order 12.24 to debate items 4,5 and 6 together but with separate votes:

Proposal under Standing Order 12.24 to debate items 4,5 and 6 together but with separate votes was agreed.

4.

The Agriculture Support Schemes (Eligibility, Enforcement and Appeals) (Wales) Regulations 2025

NDM9065 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Agriculture Support Schemes (Eligibility, Enforcement and Appeals) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 4 November 2025.

 

Supporting documents:

Report of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

 

Minutes:

The item started at 15.34

 

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

 

NDM9065 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Agriculture Support Schemes (Eligibility, Enforcement and Appeals) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 4 November 2025.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

12

12

46

The motion was agreed.

 

5.

The Basic Payment Scheme (Tapering, Payment Entitlements, and Closure) (Wales) Regulations 2025

NDM9063 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Basic Payment Scheme (Tapering, Payment Entitlements and Closure) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 4 November 2025.

 

Supporting documents:

Report of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

 

Minutes:

The item started at 15.34

 

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

 

NDM9063 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Basic Payment Scheme (Tapering, Payment Entitlements and Closure) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 4 November 2025.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

12

12

46

The motion was agreed.

6.

The Agricultural Subsidies and Grants Schemes (Appeals) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2025

NDM9064 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Agricultural Subsidies and Grants Schemes (Appeals) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 4 November 2025.

 

Supporting documents:

Report of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

 

Minutes:

The item started at 15.34

 

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

 

NDM9064 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Agricultural Subsidies and Grants Schemes (Appeals) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 4 November 2025.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

22

12

12

46

The motion was agreed.

(30 mins)

Proposal under Standing Order 12.24 to debate items 7,8 and 9 together but with separate votes:

Proposal under Standing Order 12.24 to debate items 7,8 and 9 together but with separate votes was agreed.

7.

The Climate Change (Carbon Budget) (Wales) Regulations 2025

NDM9060 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Climate Change (Carbon Budget) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 11 November 2025.

 

Supporting documents:

Report of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.05

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM9060 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Climate Change (Carbon Budget) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 11 November 2025.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

33

1

12

46

The motion was agreed.

8.

The Climate Change (Net Welsh Emissions Account Credit Limit) (Wales) Regulations 2025

NDM9061 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Climate Change (Net Welsh Emissions Account Credit Limit) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 11 November 2025.

 

Supporting documents:

Report of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.05

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM9061 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Climate Change (Net Welsh Emissions Account Credit Limit) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 11 November 2025.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

34

0

12

46

The motion was agreed.

9.

The Carbon Accounting (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2025

NDM9062 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Carbon Accounting (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 14 October 2025.

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.05

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM9062 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Carbon Accounting (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 14 October 2025.

The result was as follows:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

34

0

12

46

The motion was agreed.

10.

Voting Time

The item started at 16.22

In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at 16.26 the Presiding Officer suspended the meeting. The bell was rung five minutes before reconvening.

 

Minutes:

The item started at 16.22

 

In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at 16.26 the Presiding Officer suspended the meeting to allow a break before the next item. The bell was rung at 16.35.

 

Votes Summary

Supporting documents:

(180 mins)

11.

Stage 3 of the Bus Services (Wales) Bill

The amendments will be disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate were set out in the motion under Standing Order 26.36 agreed by the Senedd on 25 November 2025.

 

The amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings will be debated as follows:

 

1. Objectives

18, 7, 19, 28, 8, 9

 

2. Welsh Ministers’ core duties

20, 23, 25, 26, 27

 

3. Welsh Bus Network Plan

29, 30, 10

 

4. Local bus service contracts and permits

21, 31, 32, 1, 2, 3, 33, 22, 34, 4, 5, 6, 35

 

5. Passenger charter and forum

24, 39

 

6. Information and data

36, 37, 38

 

7. Miscellaneous and general

11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 15

 

Supporting documents:

Bus Services (Wales) Bill (as amended at Stage 2)

Revised Explanatory Memorandum and Regulatory Impact Assessment

Marshalled list of amendments (updated)

Groupings of amendments

Minutes:

The item started at 16.38

The amendments were disposed of in the order that the sections and schedules to which they relate were set out in the motion under Standing Order 26.36 agreed by the Senedd on 25 November 2025.

A vote was taken on amendment 18:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

13

10

23

46

Amendment 18 was not agreed.

Amendment 7 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 19:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

13

0

33

46

Amendment 19 was not agreed.

Amendment 28 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 8 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 9 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 20 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 29 withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 12.27

Amendment 30 was not moved.

Amendment 10 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 21 was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 12.27.

Amendment 31 was not moved.

A vote was taken on amendment 32:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

11

12

23

46

Amendment 32 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

24

47

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

24

47

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

24

47

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 33:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

11

0

35

46

Amendment 33 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 22:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

13

0

33

46

Amendment 22 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 34:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

11

12

23

46

Amendment 34 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 4:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

24

47

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 5:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

24

47

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 6:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

23

0

24

47

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 35:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

13

0

33

46

Amendment 35 was not agreed.

Amendment 23 was not moved.

Amendment 24 was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 12.27.

A vote was taken on amendment 25:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

13

0

33

46

Amendment 25 was not agreed.

Amendment 36 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 37 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 38 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 26:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

13

0

33

46

Amendment 26 was not agreed.

Amendment 39 was not moved.

Amendment 11 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 12 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 13 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 14 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 16 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 17 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 27 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 15 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

 

All sections and schedules of the Bill were deemed agreed, concluding Stage 3 proceedings.