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This
meeting was held in a hybrid format, with some Members in the Senedd Chamber
and others joining by video-conference. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Economy The Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople
to ask questions without notice to the Minister after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The item started at
13.30 The first 8 questions were asked. Questions 2 and 3 were answered by the Deputy Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Health and Social Services The Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople
to ask questions without notice to the Minister after Question 2. Minutes: The item started at
14.27 The first 8
questions were asked. Questions 2, 4 and 5 were answered by the Deputy Minister
for Mental Health and Wellbeing. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople
to ask questions to the Minister after question 2. At
15.18, Tom Giffard raised a Point of Order to seek to correct remarks made by
Mabon ap Gwynfor regarding meetings of the Wales COVID-19 Inquiry Special
Purpose Committee during Questions to the Minister for Health and Social
Services. Mabon ap Gwynfor accepted the correction. |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To
ask the Minister for Education and Welsh Language Heledd Fychan (South Wales
Central): What assessment has the Welsh Government made of the effect of
increasing tuition fee caps and cutting postgraduate support grants on the
probable number of students applying to study in Welsh Universities? To
ask the Minister for Finance and Local Government Peredur Owen
Griffiths (South Wales East): What consultation has the Minister held with
local authorities across Wales before the Welsh Government allocates
consequential funding to local authorities in Wales following the UK
Government's announcement in January 2024? Minutes: The item started at
15.18 Answered by
Minister for Education and Welsh Language Heledd Fychan (South
Wales Central): What assessment has the Welsh Government made of
the effect of increasing tuition fee caps and cutting postgraduate support
grants on the probable number of students applying to study in Welsh
Universities? Answered by the
Minister for Finance and Local Government Peredur Owen Griffiths (South Wales East): What consultation has the Minister held with local authorities across Wales before the Welsh Government allocates consequential funding to local authorities in Wales following the UK Government's announcement in January 2024? |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The item started at
15.44 Adam Price made a statement on - Tribute to Barry
John. Darren Miller made a statement on - Welsh Dark Skies
Week (9-18 February). Mike Hedges made a statement on - Leukaemia, one of the less discussed cancers – World Cancer Day (4 February). |
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(60 mins) |
Debate on the Local Government and Housing Committee report – Diversity in Local Government NDM8477 John
Griffiths (Newport East) To propose that the Senedd: Notes the report of the Local Government and
Housing Committee, ‘Diversity in Local Government’, which was laid in the Table Office on 17 October 2023. Note: The response of the Welsh Government to the report was laid in the Table Office on 31 January 2024. Minutes: The item started at 15.49 NDM8477 John Griffiths
(Newport East) To
propose that the Senedd: Notes
the report of the Local Government and Housing Committee, ‘Diversity in Local
Government’, which was laid in
the Table Office on 17 October 2023. Note:
The response of the Welsh Government to the report was laid in
the Table Office on 31 January 2024. The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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(60 mins) |
Welsh Conservatives Debate - Housing supply NDM8479 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Regrets that despite Wales needing at
least 12,000 new homes every year, over the last decade the Welsh Government
has barely built half that number. 2. Recognises figures released from the
Office for National Statistics in 2023 that there are 103,000 truly vacant
unoccupied dwellings in Wales. 3. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) establish a dedicated taskforce of
planners to tackle the backlog in the slowest performing councils, and create a
planning apprentice for every council; b) support small developers in Wales to build
homes on land owned by the Welsh Government and local councils, with a focus on
meeting local housing needs; and c) turn Wales’s empty properties back into
homes. The following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 Heledd
Fychan (South Wales Central) Delete all and replace with: To propose that the Senedd: 1. Notes: a) that almost 90,000 households are on
social housing waiting lists at present; and b) that 11,273 individuals were in temporary
accommodation, of which 3,403 were dependent children aged under 16 in October
2023. 2. Regrets: a) that the Welsh Government has only
delivered 5,775 units since 2021, despite the target to deliver 20,000 new low
carbon homes for rent within the social sector during this government term; and b) that over 139,000 social homes on rent had
been lost to the open market, by the time the Right to Buy was abolished in
Wales in 2019, contributing greatly to the current housing crisis. 3. Believes: a) the solution to Wales’s housing crisis
lies in increasing the supply of affordable homes for medium- and low-income
households, for rent and for purchase; and b) that securing a much higher rate of homes
in public and community ownership will also positively influence affordability
in the wider housing market. 4. Welcomes: a) the Co-operation Agreement commitment to
publish a White Paper setting out proposals to establish a system of fair rents
and new approaches to make homes more affordable; and b) radical reform for the future set out in
the White Paper on Ending Homelessness developed as part of the Co-operation
Agreement. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to rapidly
accelerate the construction of social housing in order to meet or exceed the
target to deliver 20,000 new low carbon homes for rent within the social
sector. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be
de-selected. Amendment 2 Lesley
Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete all and replace with: To propose that the Senedd: 1. Acknowledges the challenges being faced by
the housing sector, which are impacting housing supply across the United
Kingdom. 2.Welcomes the action and investment being
made in housing by the Welsh Government. 3. Notes the Welsh Government’s ambitious
commitment to deliver 20,000 low carbon, social homes during this term of
Government. 4. Notes the Welsh Government’s commitment to Unnos, together with Plaid Cymru, to support our councils and social landlords to improve the supply of social and affordable housing, including bringing more empty homes back into use. Minutes: The
item started at 16.29 Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred
until Voting Time. A vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM8479 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Regrets that despite Wales needing at least 12,000 new homes
every year, over the last decade the Welsh Government has barely built half
that number. 2. Recognises figures released from the Office for National
Statistics in 2023 that there are 103,000 truly vacant unoccupied dwellings in
Wales. 3. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) establish a dedicated taskforce of planners to tackle the
backlog in the slowest performing councils, and create a planning apprentice
for every council; b) support small developers in Wales to build homes on land owned
by the Welsh Government and local councils, with a focus on meeting local
housing needs; and c) turn Wales’s empty properties back into homes.
The motion without amendment not agreed. The following amendments were tabled: Amendment
1 Heledd Fychan (South Wales
Central) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the Senedd: 1.
Notes: a) that
almost 90,000 households are on social housing waiting lists at present; and b) that
11,273 individuals were in temporary accommodation, of which 3,403 were
dependent children aged under 16 in October 2023. 2.
Regrets: a) that
the Welsh Government has only delivered 5,775 units since 2021, despite the
target to deliver 20,000 new low carbon homes for rent within the social sector
during this government term; and b) that
over 139,000 social homes on rent had been lost to the open market, by the time
the Right to Buy was abolished in Wales in 2019, contributing greatly to the
current housing crisis. 3.
Believes: a) the
solution to Wales’s housing crisis lies in increasing the supply of affordable
homes for medium- and low-income households, for rent and for purchase; and b) that
securing a much higher rate of homes in public and community ownership will
also positively influence affordability in the wider housing market. 4.
Welcomes: a) the
Co-operation Agreement commitment to publish a White Paper setting out
proposals to establish a system of fair rents and new approaches to make homes
more affordable; and b)
radical reform for the future set out in the White Paper on Ending Homelessness
developed as part of the Co-operation Agreement. 5.
Calls on the Welsh Government to rapidly accelerate the construction of social
housing in order to meet or exceed the target to deliver 20,000 new low carbon
homes for rent within the social sector. A vote
was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment 1 was not agreed. Amendment
2 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete
all and replace with: To
propose that the Senedd: 1.
Acknowledges the challenges being faced by the housing sector, which are
impacting housing supply across the United Kingdom. 2.Welcomes
the action and investment being made in housing by the Welsh Government. 3.
Notes the Welsh Government’s ambitious commitment to deliver 20,000 low carbon,
social homes during this term of Government. 4.
Notes the Welsh Government’s commitment to Unnos, together with Plaid Cymru, to
support our councils and social landlords to improve the supply of social and
affordable housing, including bringing more empty homes back into use. A vote
was taken on amendment 2:
Amendment 2 was agreed. A vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM8479 Darren Millar
(Clwyd West) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Acknowledges the challenges being faced by the housing sector,
which are impacting housing supply across the United Kingdom. 2.Welcomes the action and investment being made in housing by the
Welsh Government. 3. Notes the Welsh Government’s ambitious commitment to deliver
20,000 low carbon, social homes during this term of Government. 4. Notes the Welsh Government’s commitment to Unnos, together with
Plaid Cymru, to support our councils and social landlords to improve the supply
of social and affordable housing, including bringing more empty homes back into
use.
The motion as amended was agreed. |
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(60 mins) |
Plaid Cymru Debate - The health service NDM8478 Heledd
Fychan (South Wales Central) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Supports the heroic efforts of NHS staff
in Wales as they provide care in challenging circumstances. 2. Notes the first anniversary of the
Minister for Health and Social Services setting out the Welsh Government's
priorities for the NHS in Wales. 3. Believes that: a) health outcomes have worsened in the past
year; and b) a failure to act on the priorities has
contributed to all health boards being in some form of escalation status. 4. Regrets that: a) the number of patient pathways waiting for
treatment was 758,815 in November 2023, compared to 731,102 in February 2023; b) 53.5 per cent of patients started their
first definitive treatment within the target of 62 days of first being
suspected of cancer in November 2023 , compared to 54.3 per cent in
February 2023; c) the full time equivalent number of GPs in
Wales was 1901 in 2013 and 1429.6 in 2023; and d) 66.7 per cent of patients spent less than
4 hours in A&E in December 2023, compared to 71.5 per cent in February
2023. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) set out a clear timescale to de-escalate
intervention arrangements in every health board; and b) declare a health emergency. The following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete all after point 2 and replace with: Notes that: a) at the end of November 2023, the
percentage of open pathways waiting less than 104 weeks was 96.7%, which is
20th successive improvement and the highest it has been since August 2021; b) in 2023, the average number of people
referred onto the suspected cancer pathway per month has increased by 53% since
2020; c) in November 2023, nearly 14,800 people who
were referred for suspected cancer were informed they did not have cancer, the
second highest on record; d) there were more fully-qualified GPs
working in Wales in June 2023 compared with the year before – an increase of
0.9%; and e) latest available data for December 2023
show a 51% reduction in average ambulance response time performance for amber
calls, 29% improvement in ambulance patient handover performance and a 20%
reduction in patients spending over 12 hours in emergency departments before
admission or discharge; when compared with the same month in 2022. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3
will be de-selected. Amendment 2 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new sub-point at end of point 5: develop and deliver a workforce plan for the
Welsh NHS; Amendment 3 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new sub-point at end of point 5: set a target to eliminate two-year waits by September 2024 and create a taskforce to deliver it; Minutes: The
item started at 17.33 Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred
until Voting Time. A vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM8478 Heledd
Fychan (South Wales Central) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Supports the heroic efforts of NHS staff in Wales as they
provide care in challenging circumstances. 2. Notes the first anniversary of the Minister for Health and
Social Services setting out the Welsh Government's priorities for the NHS in
Wales. 3. Believes that: a) health outcomes have worsened in the past year; and b) a failure to act on the priorities has contributed to all
health boards being in some form of escalation status. 4. Regrets that: a) the number of patient pathways waiting for treatment was
758,815 in November 2023, compared to 731,102 in February 2023; b) 53.5 per cent of patients started their first definitive
treatment within the target of 62 days of first being suspected of cancer in
November 2023 , compared to 54.3 per cent in February 2023; c) the full time equivalent number of GPs in Wales was 1901 in
2013 and 1429.6 in 2023; and d) 66.7 per cent of patients spent less than 4 hours in A&E in
December 2023, compared to 71.5 per cent in February 2023. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) set out a clear timescale to de-escalate intervention
arrangements in every health board; and b) declare a health emergency.
As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised
her casting vote by voting against the motion without amendment. Therefore, the
motion without amendment was not agreed. The following amendments were tabled: Amendment 1 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete
all after point 2 and replace with: Notes
that: a) at
the end of November 2023, the percentage of open pathways waiting less than 104
weeks was 96.7%, which is 20th successive improvement and the highest it has
been since August 2021; b) in
2023, the average number of people referred onto the suspected cancer pathway
per month has increased by 53% since 2020; c) in
November 2023, nearly 14,800 people who were referred for suspected cancer were
informed they did not have cancer, the second highest on record; d)
there were more fully-qualified GPs working in Wales in June 2023 compared with
the year before – an increase of 0.9%; and e)
latest available data for December 2023 show a 51% reduction in average
ambulance response time performance for amber calls, 29% improvement in
ambulance patient handover performance and a 20% reduction in patients spending
over 12 hours in emergency departments before admission or discharge; when
compared with the same month in 2022. A vote
was taken on amendment 1:
Amendment
2 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as
new sub-point at end of point 5: develop
and deliver a workforce plan for the Welsh NHS; A vote
was taken on amendment 2:
As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised
her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was
not agreed. Amendment
3 Darren Millar (Clwyd West) Add as new sub-point at end of point 5: set a target to
eliminate two-year waits by September 2024 and create a taskforce to deliver
it; A vote
was taken on amendment 3:
Amendment 3 was agreed. A vote was taken on the motion as amended: NDM8478 Heledd Fychan
(South Wales Central) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Supports the heroic efforts of NHS staff in Wales as they
provide care in challenging circumstances. 2. Notes the first anniversary of the Minister for Health and
Social Services setting out the Welsh Government's priorities for the NHS in
Wales. 3. Believes that: a) health outcomes have worsened in the past year; and b) a failure to act on the priorities has contributed to all
health boards being in some form of escalation status. 4. Regrets that: a) the number of patient pathways waiting for treatment was
758,815 in November 2023, compared to 731,102 in February 2023; b) 53.5 per cent of patients started their first definitive
treatment within the target of 62 days of first being suspected of cancer in
November 2023 , compared to 54.3 per cent in February 2023; c) the full time equivalent number of GPs in Wales was 1901 in
2013 and 1429.6 in 2023; and d) 66.7 per cent of patients spent less than 4 hours in A&E in
December 2023, compared to 71.5 per cent in February 2023. 5. Calls on the Welsh Government to: a) set out a clear timescale to de-escalate intervention
arrangements in every health board; b) declare a health emergency; and c) set a target to
eliminate two-year waits by September 2024 and create a taskforce to deliver
it.
As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised
her casting vote by voting against the motion as amended. Therefore, the motion
as amended was not agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: The item started at
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Votes Summary Supporting documents: |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate NDM8476 Janet
Finch-Saunders (Aberconwy) Faster access to hearing services in Wales Minutes: The item started at
18.46 NDM8476 Janet Finch-Saunders (Aberconwy) Faster access to hearing services in Wales |