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Transcript: Transcript for 10/10/2023 - Plenary

Items
Expected timing No. Item

Statement by the Llywydd

At 13.30, the Llywydd expressed condolences to those affected by events in Israel and Gaza and invited Party Leaders to make a statement.

(45 mins)

1.

Questions to the First Minister

The Presiding Officer will call Party Leaders to ask questions without notice to the First Minister after Question 2.

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Minutes:

The item started at 13.38

The first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party leaders to ask questions to the First Minister after question 2.

(30 mins)

2.

Business Statement and Announcement

Minutes:

The item started at 14.37

(45 mins)

3.

Statement by the Minister for Climate Change: Ending Homelessness in Wales

Minutes:

The item started at 14.52

(60 mins)

4.

Debate: The NHS in 10+ years: an examination of the projected impact of long-term conditions and risk factors in Wales

NDM8372 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes the report from the Chief Scientific Adviser for Health on ‘NHS in 10+ years: An examination of the projected impact of Long-Term Conditions and Risk Factors in Wales.’

2. Welcomes the report findings that will assist to support future policy making under A Healthier Wales.

NHS in 10+ years: An examination of the projected impact of Long-Term Conditions and Risk Factors in Wales

The following amendment was tabled: 

Amendment 1 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Add as new points at end of motion:

3. Believes that if the Welsh NHS is to be safeguarded for future challenges, retaining the current workforce and recruiting more staff is essential.

4. Calls on Welsh Government to:

a) ensure that health and care sector workers receive the pay uplift they are due alongside fit for purpose working terms and conditions, including flexible working practises and in-work training opportunities; and

b) develop a clear delivery strategy with targets and full costing for a new workforce plan, including steps to remove profit from agency working.

Minutes:

The item started at 15.30

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM8372 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes the report from the Chief Scientific Adviser for Health on ‘NHS in 10+ years: An examination of the projected impact of Long-Term Conditions and Risk Factors in Wales.’

2. Welcomes the report findings that will assist to support future policy making under A Healthier Wales.

NHS in 10+ years: An examination of the projected impact of Long-Term Conditions and Risk Factors in Wales

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Add as new points at end of motion:

3. Believes that if the Welsh NHS is to be safeguarded for future challenges, retaining the current workforce and recruiting more staff is essential.

4. Calls on Welsh Government to:

a) ensure that health and care sector workers receive the pay uplift they are due alongside fit for purpose working terms and conditions, including flexible working practises and in-work training opportunities; and

b) develop a clear delivery strategy with targets and full costing for a new workforce plan, including steps to remove profit from agency working.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

28

55

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM8372 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes the report from the Chief Scientific Adviser for Health on ‘NHS in 10+ years: An examination of the projected impact of Long-Term Conditions and Risk Factors in Wales.’

2. Welcomes the report findings that will assist to support future policy making under A Healthier Wales.

NHS in 10+ years: An examination of the projected impact of Long-Term Conditions and Risk Factors in Wales

For

Abstain

Against

Total

54

0

0

54

The motion without amendment was agreed.

 

5.

Voting Time

Minutes:

The item started at 16.42

 

(90 mins)

6.

Debate: Stage 3 of the Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill

The amendments will be disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate were set out in the motion under Standing Order 26.36 agreed by the Senedd on 27 June 2023.

The amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings will be debated as follows:

1. Technical

7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12

2. Procurement of social care services connected to health services as part of mixed procurements

1, 5

3. Health service procurement principles and governance

20, 15, 17

4. Impact of regulatory alignment or divergence

2, 18

5. Operation of regulations under section 10A(1)

14, 16, 19, 23, 25

6. Involvement of the voluntary sector and third sector

21

7. Consultation regarding regulations under section 10A(1) of the NHS (Wales) Act 2006

22

8. Compliance with the public sector equality duty

3

9. Interaction with the wider policy, legislative and strategic context

4

10. Review of the operation of regulations under section 10A

6

11. Scrutiny procedure for regulations under section 10A(1)

24, 26, 13

Supporting Documents

Health Service Procurement (Wales) Bill, as amended at Stage 2

Explanatory Memorandum, revised after Stage 2

Marshalled List of Amendments

Grouping of Amendments

Minutes:

The item started at 16.45

The amendments were disposed of in the order that the sections and schedules to which they relate were set out in the motion under Standing Order 26.36 agreed by the Senedd on 27 June 2023.

Amendment 7 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 8 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 9 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 10 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 11 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 12 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 20:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

28

55

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 14:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 14 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 15:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

28

55

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 16:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 16 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 17:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

28

55

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

Amendment 18 not moved.

A vote was taken on amendment 19:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

28

55

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 21:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 21 was not agreed.

Amendment 22 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 3 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 4:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 4 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 5:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 5 was not agreed.

Amendment 6 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 23:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

28

55

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 24:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 24 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 25:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

28

55

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 26:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

26

0

28

54

Amendment 26 was not agreed.

Amendment 13 was not moved

All sections and schedules of the Bill were deemed agreed, concluding Stage 3 proceedings.

 

Votes Summary

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