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The item started at 13.30

The first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party leaders to ask questions to the First Minister after question 2.

 

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The item started at 14.20

 

The item started at 14.59

 

NDM8797 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Health Services (Provider Selection Regime) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 7 January 2025.

Supporting Documents

Explanatory Memorandum

Report of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

Government response to the report of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

The item started at 15.47

Voting on the motion under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM8797 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd, in accordance with Standing Order 27.5, approves that the draft The Health Services (Provider Selection Regime) (Wales) Regulations 2025 is made in accordance with the draft laid in the Table Office on 7 January 2025.

Supporting Documents

Explanatory Memorandum

Report of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee

The result was as follows:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
37	9	2	48

The motion was agreed.

 

NDM8798 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes the progress in delivering the Welsh Government’s violence against women, domestic abuse and sexual violence strategy 2022-2026.

2. Supports a call to action for all to accelerate action to eliminate gender-based violence and the need for a whole system approach.

Violence against women, domestic abuse and sexual violence: strategy 2022 to 2026

Co-submitters

Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Jane Dodds (Mid and West Wales)

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Believes that the reliance of charities and third sector bodies working in this area on short-term, competitive funding adds administrative burden, hinders long-term planning, and affects the recruitment and retention of staff, which particularly affects smaller organisations serving minority ethnic, disabled, LGBTQ+ and migrant women.

Amendment 2 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Add as new points at end of motion:

Regrets the UK Government's decision to:

a) cut 4.2 per cent funding for frontline survivor support services; and

b) increase the national insurance contributions of charitable and third sector bodies working in this area in Wales, further exacerbating the current cost pressures.

Calls on the Welsh Government to encourage the UK Government to exempt charitable and third sector bodies working in this area from the proposed increase in national insurance contributions.

Amendment 3 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Add as a new point at end of the motion:

Calls on the Welsh Government to establish a sustainable long-term funding model for specialist services of violence against women, domestic abuse and sexual violence with streamlined tendering and reporting processes.

The item started at 15.57

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

NDM8798 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes the progress in delivering the Welsh Government’s violence against women, domestic abuse and sexual violence strategy 2022-2026.

2. Supports a call to action for all to accelerate action to eliminate gender-based violence and the need for a whole system approach.

Violence against women, domestic abuse and sexual violence: strategy 2022 to 2026

Co-submitters

Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Jane Dodds (Mid and West Wales)

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Believes that the reliance of charities and third sector bodies working in this area on short-term, competitive funding adds administrative burden, hinders long-term planning, and affects the recruitment and retention of staff, which particularly affects smaller organisations serving minority ethnic, disabled, LGBTQ+ and migrant women.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

Amendment 2 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Add as new points at end of motion:

Regrets the UK Government's decision to:

a) cut 4.2 per cent funding for frontline survivor support services; and

b) increase the national insurance contributions of charitable and third sector bodies working in this area in Wales, further exacerbating the current cost pressures.

Calls on the Welsh Government to encourage the UK Government to exempt charitable and third sector bodies working in this area from the proposed increase in national insurance contributions.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 2 was not agreed.

Amendment 3 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)

Add as a new point at end of the motion:

Calls on the Welsh Government to establish a sustainable long-term funding model for specialist services of violence against women, domestic abuse and sexual violence with streamlined tendering and reporting processes.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
49	0	0	49

Amendment 3 was agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM8798 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the Senedd:

1. Notes the progress in delivering the Welsh Government’s violence against women, domestic abuse and sexual violence strategy 2022-2026.

2. Supports a call to action for all to accelerate action to eliminate gender-based violence and the need for a whole system approach.

3. Calls on the Welsh Government to establish a sustainable long-term funding model for specialist services of violence against women, domestic abuse and sexual violence with streamlined tendering and reporting processes.

For	Abstain	Against	Total
49	0	0	49

The motion as amended was agreed.

 

The item started at 17.05

In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at 17.08 the Deputy Presiding Officer suspended the meeting. The bell was rung 5 minutes before reconvening.

 

The amendments will be disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate were set out in the motion under Standing Order 26.36 agreed by the Senedd on 21 January 2025.

The amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings will be debated as follows:

1. “Children’s home service” – meaning and use of

2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 25, 1, 37, 38

2. Minor drafting and consequential amendments

5, 7, 12, 23, 28, 29, 36, 39, 41, 35

3. Advocacy and assistance

77, 78, 58, 83, 87, 88

4. Existing service providers: ‘reasonable profit entity’

42, 43, 44, 45

5. Regarding the register of existing service providers

9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 26, 27

6. Transitional period: transitional arrangements for existing service providers

79, 80

7. Oversight of, and support for, transition

46, 47, 48

8. Out of area placements

49, 51, 50, 81, 52, 82

9. Supplementary placements

53, 54, 55, 56, 57

10. Regulation of social care services: inspection

30, 31, 32, 40

11. Personal assistants

59

12. Direct payments for health care: information, advice and support for patients, etc

33, 34, 61, 84, 60, 69, 85, 66, 86, 68

13. Oversight of, and support for, direct payments in health care

62, 63, 64, 65, 67, 70, 71, 72, 73

14. Review of CHC framework

74, 76

15. Procedure for commencement

75

Supporting Documents

Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill, as amended at Stage 2

Explanatory Memorandum, revised after Stage 2

Marshalled List of Amendments

Grouping of Amendments

The item started at 17.05

In accordance with Standing Order 12.18, at 17.08 the Deputy Presiding Officer suspended the meeting. The bell was rung 5 minutes before reconvening.

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7       Stage 3 of the Health and Social Care (Wales) Bill

The item started at 17.19

The amendments were disposed of in the order that the sections and schedules to which they relate were set out in the motion under Standing Order 26.36 agreed by the Senedd on 21 January 2025.

Amendment 2 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 3 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 4 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 5 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 6 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 77:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 77 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 42:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	1	36	49

Amendment 42 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 43:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	1	36	49

Amendment 43 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 44:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
13	0	36	49

Amendment 44 was not agreed.

As amendment 44 was not agreed, amendment 45 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 78:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 78 was not agreed.

As amendment 78 was not agreed, amendment 88 fell.

Amendment 7 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 8 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 9 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 10 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 11 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 12 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 79:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 79 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 80:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
23	0	26	49

Amendment 80 was not agreed.

Amendment 13 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 14 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 15 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 16 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 17 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 18 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 19 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 20 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 21 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 22 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 46:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 46 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 47:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 47 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 48:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 48 was not agreed.

Amendment 23 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 24 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 49:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 49 was not agreed.

Amendment 25 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 26 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 27 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on amendment 51:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 51 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 50:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 50 was not agreed.

As amendments 51 and 50 were not agreed, amendment 52 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 81:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 81 was not agreed.

As amendment 81 was not agreed, amendment 82 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 53:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 53 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 54:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 54 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 55:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 55 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 56:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 56 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 57:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 57 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 58:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 58 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on amendment 83:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 83 was not agreed.

As amendment 83 was not agreed, amendment 87 fell.

Amendment 1 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 28 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 29 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 30 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 31 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 32 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 59 was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 12.27.

Amendment 36 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 37 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 38 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 39 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 40 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 41 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 33 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 34 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 61 was not moved.

Amendment 84 was not moved.

Amendment 60 was not moved.

Amendment 62 was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 12.27.

Amendment 63 was not moved.

Amendment 64 was not moved.

Amendment 65 was not moved.

Amendment 69 was not moved.

Amendment 85 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 85 was not moved.

Amendment 66 was not moved.

Amendment 86 was not moved.

Amendment 67 was not moved.

Amendment 68 was not moved.

Amendment 70 was not moved.

Amendment 71 was not moved.

Amendment 72 was not moved.

Amendment 73 was not moved.

A vote was taken on amendment 74:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

Amendment 74 was not agreed.

As amendment 74 was not agreed, amendment 76 fell.

A vote was taken on amendment 75:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
13	0	36	49

Amendment 75 was not agreed.

Amendment 35 was agreed, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

All sections and schedules of the Bill were deemed agreed, concluding Stage 3 proceedings.

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The meeting concluded at 19.36

The Senedd will sit again in Plenary at 13.30, Wednesday, 29 January 2025