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Transcript: Transcript for 24/09/2020 - Children, Young People and Education Committee - Fifth Senedd

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Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest


1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the virtual meeting of the Children, Young People and Education Committee.


1.2 In accordance with Standing Order 34.19, the Chair stated that she had determined that the public were excluded from the Committee’s meeting in order to protect public health but that the meeting would be broadcast live on


1.3 The Chair stated that if for any reason she dropped out of the meeting, the Committee agreed that Dawn Bowden MS would become Temporary Chair in accordance with Standing Order 17.22.


(09.15 - 10.15)


Curriculum and Assessment (Wales) Bill - evidence session 6 with representatives from headteacher unions

Eithne Hughes, Director - Association of School and College Leaders (ASCL) Cymru

Laura Doel, Director – National Association of Headteachers Cymru (NAHT)


Supporting documents:


2.1 The Committee heard evidence from ASCL and NAHT.

2.2 The Committee agreed to write with the questions that were unasked.


(10.25 - 11.25)


Curriculum and Assessment (Wales) Bill - evidence session 7 with representatives from teaching unions

Rebecca Williams, Deputy General Secretary and Policy Officer - Undeb Cenedlaethol Athrawon Cymru (UCAC)

Neil Butler, National Official Wales – NASUWT

Mary van den Heuvel, Wales Senior Policy Officer - National Education Union Cymru


Supporting documents:


3.1The Committee heard evidence from NEU, NASUWT and UCAC.

3.2 NASUWT agreed to provide a note on what they envisage as realistic timescales for implementing the new curriculum.



Papers to note


Letter from the Minister for Housing and Regeneration to all Committee Chairs regarding the draft National Development Framework

Supporting documents:


4.1 The papers were noted.


Letter from Chair of Children, Young People and Education Committee to Minister for Education regarding EOTAS

Supporting documents:



Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public for the remainder of the meeting


5.1 The motion was agreed.

(11.25 - 11.35)


Curriculum and Assessment (Wales) Bill: consideration of the evidence


6.1 The Committee considered the evidence it heard in the previous sessions.

(11.35 - 12.00)


The Emotional and Mental Health of Children and Young People - Follow up: consideration of the draft report


7.1 The Committee considered the draft report. Subject to minor amendments, the report was agreed.