Agenda and minutes

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Transcript: Transcript for 08/07/2019 - Public Accounts Committee - Fifth Senedd

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(13.00 - 13.30)

1.

Management of follow up outpatients across Wales: Consideration of draft report

PAC(5)-19-19 Paper 1 – Draft Report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

1.1 The Committee considered the draft report and a revised version will be prepared for consideration on 15 July 2019.

(13.30 - 13.50)

2.

Primary care out-of-hours service: Consideration of draft report

PAC(5)-19-19 Paper 2 – Draft Report

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 The Committee agreed the draft report, subject to a few minor revisions which will be circulated outside of Committee.

(13.50)

3.

Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

Minutes:

3.1 The Chair welcomed the Members to the meeting. There were no apologies.

(13.50 - 14.00)

4.

Paper(s) to note

Minutes:

4.1 The papers were noted.

4.1

Auditor General for Wales Report: Wales Audit Office Annual Report and Accounts 2018-19

Supporting documents:

4.2

Care experienced children and young people: Letter from the Chair of the Children, Young People and Education Committee (21 June 2019)

Supporting documents:

4.3

Primary care out-of-hours service: Letter from the Welsh Government (25 June 2019)

Supporting documents:

4.4

Management of follow up outpatients across Wales: Letter from the Welsh Government (26 June 2019)

Supporting documents:

(14.00 - 15.00)

5.

Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Evidence Session with Hywel Dda University Health Board

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-19-19 Paper 3 – Welsh Government Statement: NHS Financial Performance 2018-19 (12 June 2019)

PAC(5)-19-19 Paper 4 – Wales Audit Office press release – Health Boards Annual Accounts (12 June 2019)

PAC(5)-19-19 Paper 5 - Hywel Dda University Health Board

 

Joe Teape - Deputy Chief Executive/Director of Operations, Hywel Dda University Health Board

Huw Thomas – Director of Finance, Hywel Dda University Health Board

Mandy Rayani - Director of Nursing, Quality & Patient Experience, Hywel Dda University Health Board

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

5.1 The Committee took evidence on their inquiry into the implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014 from Hywel Dda University Health Board.

5.2 The Director of Finance agreed to send details of the total expenditure on overtime for permanent staff in contrast to the reduction of costs on agency staff.

5.3 Due to time restraints, the Chair advised that the Clerks would write with a number of questions that were unable to be asked.

 

(15.10 - 16.15)

6.

Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Evidence Session with Aneurin Bevan University Health Board

PAC(5)-19-19 Paper 6 - Aneurin Bevan University Health Board

 

Judith Paget – Chief Executive, Aneurin Bevan University Health Board

Glyn Jones – Director of Finance and Performance, Aneurin Bevan University Health Board

Martine Price – Interim Director of Nursing, Aneurin Bevan University Health Board

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

6.1 The Committee took evidence on their inquiry into the implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014 from Aneurin Bevan University Health Board.

6.2 Due to time restraints, the Chair advised that the Clerks would write with a number of questions that were unable to be asked.

 

(16.15)

7.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Items 8, 9 & 10

Minutes:

7.1 The motion as agreed.

(16.15 - 16.30)

8.

Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Consideration of evidence received

Minutes:

8.1 The Members discussed the evidence received.

(16.30 - 16.50)

9.

Forward Work Programme: Consideration of Autumn 2019 Work Programme

PAC(5)-19-19 Paper 7 – Draft work programme

 

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

9.1 Members noted the proposed work programme for the autumn 2019 term.

(16.50 - 17.00)

10.

Counter Fraud in the Public Sector: Follow-up from event held on 1 July

Minutes:

10.1 Members discussed the event held on Counter Fraud in the Public Sector and passed their feedback to the Auditor General for Wales.