Agenda and minutes

Venue: Committee Room 2 - Senedd

Contact: Gareth Price 

Items
Expected timing No. Item

(09:00)

1.

Introductions, apologies and substitutions

Minutes:

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members and members of the public to the meeting.

(09:00-10:30)

2.

National Health Service Finance (Wales) Bill: Stage 2 - Consideration of Amendments

In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee will dispose of amendments to the Bill in the following order:

 

Sections 1 – 3

 

Marshalled List of Amendments: 7 November 2013

Groupings of Amendments: 7 November 2013

 

Mark Drakeford AM, Minister for Health and Social Services

Sally Hughes, Welsh Government Lawyer

Mark Osland, Deputy Director, Finance, Department of Health and Social Services

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

2.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee considered and disposed of the amendments to the Bill in the following order:

 

Sections 1 – 3

 

Section 1:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore it was deemed agreed to.

 

Section 2:

Amendment 8 (Mark Drakeford) was withdrawn

 

Amendment 3 (Paul Davies)

 

For

Against

Abstain

Simon Thomas

Peter Black

Paul Davies

Jocelyn Davies

Christine Chapman

Julie Morgan

Mike Hedges

Ann Jones

4

4

0

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)), Amendment 3 was not agreed to.

 

Amendment 1 (Simon Thomas) was withdrawn


Amendment 2 (Simon Thomas)

 

For

Against

Abstain

Simon Thomas

Peter Black

Paul Davies

Jocelyn Davies

Christine Chapman

Julie Morgan

Mike Hedges

Ann Jones

4

4

0

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)), Amendment 2 was not agreed to.

 

Amendment 10 (Simon Thomas) was withdrawn

 

Amendment 9 (Mark Drakeford) was agreed to, in accordance with Standing Order 17.34 (i).

 

Section 3:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore it was deemed agreed to.

 

New Sections:


Amendment 4 (Paul Davies)

 

For

Against

Abstain

Simon Thomas

Peter Black

Paul Davies

Jocelyn Davies

Christine Chapman

Julie Morgan

Mike Hedges

Ann Jones

4

4

0

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)), Amendment 4 was not agreed to.

 

Amendment 5 (Paul Davies) was withdrawn

 

Amendment 6 (Paul Davies) was withdrawn


Amendment 7 (Paul Davies) fell

 

2.2 The Chair advised that all sections of the Bill had been agreed by the Committee and as all amendments had been disposed of, Stage 3 will commence from 8 November 2013.

 

 

(10:30)

3.

Papers to note

Minutes of the meeting held on 23 October 2013

Minutes of the meeting held on 17 October 2013

Minutes of the meeting held on 09 October 2013

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3.1 The papers were noted.

3a

National Health Service Finance (Wales) Bill: Letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services (29 October 2013)

FIN(4)-19-13 (PTN1)

Supporting documents:

3b

Education (Wales) Bill: Letter from the Minister for Education and Skills (22 October 2013)

FIN(4)-19-13 (PTN2)

Supporting documents:

(10:30)

4.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Items 5 & 6

Minutes:

4.1 The motion was agreed.

(10:30-10:45)

5.

Finance Wales Inquiry: Consideration of Draft Terms of Reference

FIN(4)-19-13 (paper 1)

Minutes:

5.1 Committee considered and agreed the paper. They also suggested the possibility of having an expert advisor to assist with this inquiry.

(10:45-12:15)

6.

Consideration of draft report on the Welsh Government draft budget proposals 2014-15

FIN(4)-19-13 (paper 2)

 

Minutes:

6.1 Committee made some slight amendments and agreed the final draft version and noted it would be published on 12 November 2013.