Agenda and minutes

Venue: Committee Room 3 - Senedd. View directions

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(09.15 - 09.30)


The Committee's Forward Work Programme


1.1 The Committee agreed to scrutinise the Draft Wales Bill, particularly the impact the proposed reserved powers model may have on the fields of health and social care, at its meeting on 5 November 2015.

1.2 In order to accommodate other business demands, the Committee agreed to reschedule Stage 2 proceedings on the Safe Nurse Staffing Levels (Wales) Bill to Wednesday 25 November.  This is subject to the Assembly’s agreement of the financial resolution which is scheduled for consideration in Plenary on 3 November.

(09.30 - 10.00)


Public Health (Wales) Bill: consideration of key issues in preparation for the evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services


2.1 The Members discussed the key issues in preparation for the evidence session with the Minister.



Introductions, apologies and substitutions


3.1 No apologies were received.

(10.00 - 11.30)


Public Health (Wales) Bill: evidence session 18

Mark Drakeford AM, Minister for Health and Social Services


Dr. Ruth Hussey, Chief Medical Officer

Chris Tudor-Smith, Senior Responsible Officer

Sue Bowker, Head of Tobacco Policy Branch

Dewi Jones, Legal Services Department


Public Health (Wales) Bill, as introduced (PDF, 316KB)

Explanatory Memorandum (PDF, 3MB)

Supporting documents:


4.1 Lindsay Whittle declared the following relevant interest under Standing Order 17.24A:

·         He is a member of Caerphilly County Borough Council.

4.2 The Minister responded to questions from Members.

4.3 The Minister agreed to provide the Committee with:

·         a note to clarify whether tattooing, as defined within the Bill, would encompass similar procedures such as ‘tashing’;

·         a note on how he intends to amend Part 4 of the Bill to extend the provisions within this part to include tongue piercing; and

·         a copy of the study he referred to about the research recently undertaken in California regarding e-cigarettes.



Papers to note


Minutes of the meeting on 7 October 2015

Supporting documents:


5.1a The Committee noted the minutes.


Public Health (Wales) Bill: additional information

Additional information from the Electronic Cigarette Industry Trade Association

Additional information from the UK Faculty of Public Health

Additional information from Crohn's and Colitis UK

Additional information from the British Medical Association

Supporting documents:


5.2a The Committee noted the additional information.


Fourth Assembly Business Committee Legacy Report: correspondence from Business Committee

Supporting documents:


5.3a The Committee noted the correspondence.



Motion under Standing Order 17.42(vi) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting and for the meetings on 5 and 11 November


6.1 The motion was agreed.

6.2 The Chair also proposed in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi) to resolve to exclude the public from the meetings on 5 and 11 November 2015. This was agreed.

(11.30 - 12.00)


Public Health (Wales) Bill: consideration of evidence and key issues


7.1 The Committee considered the:

·         evidence received; and

·         key issues that have arisen during its consideration of the general principles of the Bill.