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1.

Introductions, apologies and substitutions

Minutes:

1.1 No apologies were received.

1.2 The Chair welcomed the Deputy Minister for Social Services and her officials to the meeting.

(09:15 - 16:00)

2.

Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Bill: Stage 2 - Consideration of amendments

In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee will dispose of amendments to the Bill in the following order:

 

•Sections 43-69

•Schedule 1

•Sections 70-119

•Schedule 2

•Sections 120-160

•Schedule 3

•Sections 161-169

•Section 1

•Long title

 

Supporting documents:

Marshalled List of Amendments, 5 December 2013

Groupings of Amendments, 5 December 2013

 

In attendance:

Gwenda Thomas AM, Deputy Minister for Social Services

 

Note: The Chair of the Committee will call for breaks at appropriate points during proceedings.

 

Minutes:

2.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

 

Section 43:

 

Amendment 293 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 414 (Lindsay Whittle)

 

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 414 was not agreed.

 

Section 44:

 

Amendment 431 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 98 (William Graham)

 

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 98 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 102 (Kirsty Williams) was not moved.

 

Amendment 103 (Kirsty Williams) was not moved.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 254 (William Graham)

 

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 254 was not agreed.

 

Section 45:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 45 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 46:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 46 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 47:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 47 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 48:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 48 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 49:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 49 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 50:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 50 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 51:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 51 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 52:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 52 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 53:

 

Amendment 432 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 104 (Kirsty Williams) was not moved.

 

Amendment 105 (Kirsty Williams) As Amendment 104 was not moved, Amendment 105 fell.

 

Amendment 433 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 54:

 

Amendment 69 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 69 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 78 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 78 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 434 (Gwenda Thomas)

For

Against

Abstain

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

Elin Jones

Lindsay Whittle

 

William Graham Darren Millar

 

6

2

2

Amendment 434 was agreed.

 

Amendment 79A (Gwenda Thomas)

For

Against

Abstain

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

William Graham

Darren Millar

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

Elin Jones

Lindsay Whittle

 

8

2

0

Amendment 79A was agreed.

 

Amendment 79 (William Graham) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 80A (Gwenda Thomas)

For

Against

Abstain

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

William Graham

Darren Millar

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

Elin Jones

Lindsay Whittle

 

8

2

0

Amendment 80A was agreed.

 

Amendment 80 (William Graham) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 99 (William Graham) was not moved.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 255 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 255 was not agreed.

 

Section 55:

 

Amendment 106 (Kirsty Williams) was not moved.

 

Amendment 107 (Kirsty Williams) was not moved.

 

Section 56:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 56 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 57:

 

Amendment 481 (Elin Jones) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66.

 

Section 58:

 

Amendment 294 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 295 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 296 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 59:

 

Amendment 517 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 60:

 

Amendment 246 (William Graham) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66.

Section 61:

 

Amendment 188 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 189 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 62:

 

Amendment 127 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 127 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 518 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 435 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 519 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 482 (Elin Jones)

 

For

Against

Abstain

Elin Jones

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

William Graham

Darren Millar

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

3

7

0

Amendment 482 was not agreed.

 

Section 63:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 63 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 64:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 64 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 65:

 

Amendment 436 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 190 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 191 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 192 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 193 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 194 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 195 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 196 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 197 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 198 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 199 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 200 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 66:

 

Amendment 520 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 67:

 

Amendment 437 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 438 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 201 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 68:

 

Amendment 439 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 440 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 441 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 297 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 69:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 69 was deemed agreed.

 

Schedule 1:

 

Amendment 532 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

For the purposes of voting, Amendments 533, 551, 534, 535 and 552 (Gwenda Thomas) were grouped and subject to a single vote, in accordance with Standing Order 17.36. The amendments were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 536 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 231 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 70:

 

Amendment 521 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 71:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 71 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 72:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 72 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 73:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 73 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 74:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 74 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 75:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 75 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 76:

 

Amendment 202 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 203 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 538 (Elin Jones)

For

Against

Abstain

Elin Jones

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

William Graham

Darren Millar

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

3

7

0

Amendment 538 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 204 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 205 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 77:

 

Amendment 143 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 442 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 144 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 145 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 146 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 78:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 78 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 79:

 

Amendment 206 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 80:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 80 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 81:

 

Amendment 207 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 82:

 

Amendment 443 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 83:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 83 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 84:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 84 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 85:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 85 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 86:

 

Amendment 208 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 87:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 87 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 88:

 

Amendment 298 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 299 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 300 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 301 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 302 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 303 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 304 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 306 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 305 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 307 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 308 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 309 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 310 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 209 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 311 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 312 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 313 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 314 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 315 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 316 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 317 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 318 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 89:

 

Amendment 319 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 320 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 321 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 90:

 

Amendment 322 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 323 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 324 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 91:

 

Amendment 325 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 326 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 327 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 328 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 329 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 330 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 331 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 332 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 333 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 334 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 92:

 

Amendment 335 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 336 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 93:

 

Amendment 337 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 338 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 339 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 340 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 341 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 342 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 343 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 94:

 

Amendment 344 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 345 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 346 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 347 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 348 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 349 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 350 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 351 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 352 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 353 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 354 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 355 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 356 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 357 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 358 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 359 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 360 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 361 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 362 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 95:

 

Amendment 363 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 364 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 365 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 366 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 210 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 96:

 

Amendment 367 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 368 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 369 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 370 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 371 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 372 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 373 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 374 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 375 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 97:

 

Amendment 376 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 377 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 378 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 98:

 

Amendment 211 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 379 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Section 99:

 

Amendment 212 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 380 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 100:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 100 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 101:

 

Amendment 444 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 102:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 102 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 103:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 103 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 104:

 

Amendment 256 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 256 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 495 (Kirsty Williams)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 495 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 496 (Lindsay Whittle)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 496 was not agreed.

 

Section 105:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 105 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 106:

 

Amendment 39 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 40 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 41 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 257 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Darren Millar

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Elin Jones

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

 

2

8

0

Amendment 257 was not agreed.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 258 (William Graham) As Amendment 257 was not agreed, Amendment 258 fell.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 259 (William Graham) As Amendment 257 was not agreed, Amendment 259 fell.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 260 (William Graham) As Amendment 257 was not agreed, Amendment 260 fell.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 261 (William Graham) As Amendment 257 was not agreed, Amendment 261 fell.

 

Section 107:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 107 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 108:

 

Amendment 42 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 43 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 44 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 497 (Lindsay Whittle)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 497 was not agreed.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 45 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 109:

 

Amendment 445 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 110:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 110 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 111:

 

Amendment 46 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 114 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 114 was not agreed.

 

Section 112:

 

Amendment 262 (William Graham) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 247 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 247 was not agreed.

 

Section 113:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 113 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 114:

 

Amendment 446 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 447 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 115:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 115 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 116:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 116 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 117:

 

Amendment 70 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 70 was not agreed.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 147 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 118:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 118 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 119:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 119 was deemed agreed.

 

Schedule 2:

No amendments were tabled to this Schedule, therefore Schedule 2 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 120:

 

Amendment 448 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 121:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 121 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 122:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 122 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 123:

 

Amendment 449 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 124:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 124 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 125:

 

Amendment 450 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 451 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 126:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 126 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 127:

 

Amendment 483A (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 483 as amended (Elin Jones) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 128:

 

Amendment 484A (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 484 as amended (Elin Jones) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 452 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 485A (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 485 as amended (Elin Jones) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 129:

 

Amendment 453 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 130:

 

Amendment 454 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 381 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 131:

 

Amendment 382 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 132:

 

Amendment 455 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 133:

 

Amendment 456 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 486A (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 486B (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 486C (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 486 as amended (Elin Jones) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 134:

 

Amendment 522 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 135:

 

Amendment 457 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 136:

 

Amendment 458 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 137:

 

Amendment 487 (Elin Jones) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66.

 

Amendment 539 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 540 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 541 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 542 (Gwenda Thomas)

For

Against

Abstain

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Elin Jones

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

 

William Graham

Darren Millar

 

 

8

2

0

Amendment 542 was agreed.

 

Amendment 250 (William Graham) As Amendment 542 was agreed, Amendment 250 fell.

 

Amendment 543 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 488 (Elin Jones) As Amendment 542 was agreed, Amendment 488 fell.

 

Amendment 524 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 138:

 

Amendment 460 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

For the purposes of voting, Amendments 525, 526, 527, 528 and 529 (Gwenda Thomas) were grouped and subject to a single vote, in accordance with Standing Order 17.36. The amendments were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 143:

 

Amendment 263 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 263 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 461 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 264 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 264 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 265 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 265 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 266 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 266 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 544 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 462 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 463 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 545 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 546 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 547 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 267 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 267 was not agreed.

 

Section 144:

 

Amendment 464 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 465 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 47 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 48 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 548 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 49 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 549 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 148 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 145:

 

Amendment 268 (William Graham) was not moved.

 

Amendment 269 (William Graham) was not moved.

 

Amendment 270 (William Graham) was not moved.

 

Amendment 271 (William Graham) As Amendment 270 was not moved, Amendment 271 fell.

 

Amendment 550 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 272 (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 272 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 273 (William Graham) was not moved.

 

Amendment 274 (William Graham) was not moved.

 

Amendment 50 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 51 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 146:

 

Amendment 415 (Lindsay Whittle)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 415 was not agreed.

 

Section 147:

 

Amendment 149 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 150 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 151 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 152 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 148:

 

Amendment 489 (Elin Jones)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 489 was not agreed.

 

 

Amendment 490 (Elin Jones)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 490 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 491 (Elin Jones)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 491 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 492 (Elin Jones)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 492 was not agreed.

 

Section 149:

 

Amendment 493 (Elin Jones)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

 

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

Kirsty Williams

 

4

6

0

Amendment 493 was not agreed.

 

Section 150:

 

Amendment 153 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 470 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 251A (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 251B (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 251 (William Graham) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 471 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 151:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 151 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 152:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 152 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 153:

 

Amendment 383 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 154:

 

For the purposes of voting, Amendments 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389 and 390 (Gwenda Thomas) were grouped and subject to a single vote, in accordance with Standing Order 17.36. The amendments were agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 155:

 

Amendment 213 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 214 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 156:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 156 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 157:

 

Amendment 391 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 392 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 393 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 394 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 158:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 158 was deemed agreed.

 

Section 159:

 

Amendment 466 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 160:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 160 was deemed agreed.

 

Schedule 3:

 

Amendment 405 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 406 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Amendment 407 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

Section 161:

No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore Section 161 was deemed agreed.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 52A (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 52A was not agreed.

 

Amendment 52B (William Graham)

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 52B was not agreed.

 

Amendment 52C (William Graham) As Amendment 52B was not agreed, Amendment 52C fell.

 

Amendment 52D (William Graham) As Amendment 52B was not agreed, Amendment 52D fell.

 

Amendment 52E (William Graham) As Amendment 52B was not agreed, Amendment 52E fell.

 

Amendment 52 (Gwenda Thomas)

For

Against

Abstain

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

 

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, Amendment 52 was not agreed.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 53 (Gwenda Thomas) As Amendment 52 was not agreed, Amendment 53 fell.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 54 (Gwenda Thomas) As Amendment 52 was not agreed, Amendment 54 fell.

 

New Section:

 

Amendment 215 (Gwenda Thomas) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

2.2 Sections 43 to 161 and Schedules 1 to 3 were deemed to be agreed.

 

3.

Papers to note

Supporting documents:

3a

Letter from the Deputy Minister for Social Services - Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Bill: direct payments

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3a.1 The Committee noted the letter from the Deputy Minister for Social Services - Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Bill in relation to direct payments.

 

3b

Letter from the Deputy Minister for Social Services in relation to the 'When I am ready' scheme

Supporting documents:

Minutes:

3b.1 The Committee noted the letter from the Deputy Minister for Social Services in relation to the 'When I am ready' scheme.

4.

Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting

Minutes:

4.1 The motion was agreed.

(16:05 - 16:30)

5.

Consideration of the forward work programme

Minutes:

5.1 The Committee discussed its forward work programme for January – April 2014 and agreed to the programme’s publication.

 

5.2 In accordance with Standing Order 17.34(ii), the Committee voted on the following motion, proposed by Darren Millar AM, and accepted by the Chair  without notice in accordance with Standing Order 17.44:

 

That the Health and Social Care Committee allocate time at a future meeting to scrutinise the Chief Executive and Chair of Hywel Dda Health Board, if available, on the provision of health services in its area.

 

The result of the vote was as follows:

 

For

Against

Abstain

William Graham

Elin Jones

Darren Millar

Lindsay Whittle

Kirsty Williams

Leighton Andrews

Rebecca Evans

Lynne Neagle

Gwyn Price

David Rees

0

5

5

0

As there was a tied vote, the Chair’s casting vote was applied in the negative, in accordance with Standing Order 6.20(ii). Therefore, the motion was not agreed.