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The Presiding Officer will call Party Spokespeople to ask questions without notice to the Minister after Question 2.

 

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The item started at 13.30

 

The first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister for Health and Social Services after Question 2. Question 3 was answered by the Deputy Minister for Health. Question 12 was withdrawn.

 

No questions tabled.

 

No questions tabled.

 

NDM5583 Rosemary Butler (Newport West)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2:

 

1. Considers the Report of the Business Committee 'Amending Standing Orders: Standing Order 26 – Acts of the Assembly' laid in the Table Office on 17 September 2014; and

 

2. Approves the proposal to revise Standing Order 26, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee.

 

Supporting documents:

 

Business Committee’s report

 

The item started at 14.22

 

NDM5583 Rosemary Butler (Newport West)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 33.2:

 

1. Considers the Report of the Business Committee 'Amending Standing Orders: Standing Order 26 – Acts of the Assembly' laid in the Table Office on 17 September 2014; and

 

2. Approves the proposal to revise Standing Order 26, as set out in Annex B of the Report of the Business Committee.

 

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

NDM5585 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Believes there is a need for greater clarity in the Welsh Government's key performance indicators for enterprise zones;

 

2. Calls on the Welsh Government to provide half-yearly updates of key performance indicators for enterprise zones; and

 

3. Notes the need for enhanced capital allowances to be extended to other enterprise zones, such as Snowdonia.

 

The following amendments have been tabled:

 

Amendment 1 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

 

In point 1, delete "for greater clarity in" and replace with "to review the clarity and understanding of"

 

Amendment 2 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Insert at end of point 1:

 

including the disaggregation of public and private finance within the investment KPI,

 

Amendment 3 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Add at end of point 2:

 

"and that those key performance indicators should include measures of productivity within each zone; and"

 

Amendment 4 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

In point 3, delete "Notes" and replace with "Calls on the Welsh and UK Governments to explore"

 

[If amendment 4 is agreed, amendment 5 will be de-selected]

 

Amendment 5 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

 

In point 3, delete all after "Notes the" and replace with "desirability of enhanced capital allowances to be extended to other enterprise zones, such as Snowdonia but recognises that any consideration of additional areas will need to note potential cost implications and have the agreement of the UK Government."

 

The item started at 14.23

 

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

 

NDM5585 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Believes there is a need for greater clarity in the Welsh Government's key performance indicators for enterprise zones;

 

2. Calls on the Welsh Government to provide half-yearly updates of key performance indicators for enterprise zones; and

 

3. Notes the need for enhanced capital allowances to be extended to other enterprise zones, such as Snowdonia.

 

 A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
20	0	30	50

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

 

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

In point 1, delete "for greater clarity in" and replace with "to review the clarity and understanding of"

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 1:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
30	0	20	50

Amendment 1 was agreed.

 

Amendment 2 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

Insert at end of point 1:

including the disaggregation of public and private finance within the investment KPI,

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 2:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
25	0	26	51

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

 

Amendment 3 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

Add at end of point 2:

"and that those key performance indicators should include measures of productivity within each zone; and"

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 3:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
25	0	26	51

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

 

Amendment 4 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

In point 3, delete "Notes" and replace with "Calls on the Welsh and UK Governments to explore"

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 4:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	36	50

Amendment 4 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 5 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

In point 3, delete all after "Notes the" and replace with "desirability of enhanced capital allowances to be extended to other enterprise zones, such as Snowdonia but recognises that any consideration of additional areas will need to note potential cost implications and have the agreement of the UK Government."

A vote was taken on Amendment 5:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
39	0	11	50

Amendment 5 was agreed.

 

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM5585 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Believes there is a need to review the clarity and understanding of the Welsh Government's key performance indicators for enterprise zones;

2. Calls on the Welsh Government to provide half-yearly updates of key performance indicators for enterprise zones; and

3. Notes the desirability of enhanced capital allowances to be extended to other enterprise zones, such as Snowdonia but recognises that any consideration of additional areas will need to note potential cost implications and have the agreement of the UK Government.

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
50	0	0	50

The motion as amended was agreed.

NDM5584 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Welcomes the progress made at the United Nations Climate Change Summit 2014 in New York;

 

2. Urges the Welsh Government to ensure that deforestation does not continue in Wales and that its target of 100,000 hectares of new forestry is met by 2030;

 

3. Regrets that the Welsh Government is not on track to meet its Climate Change 2020 targets;

 

4. Calls upon the Welsh Government to encourage a wider range of renewable energies, including but not limited to, marine renewables, anaerobic digestion and hydropower;

 

5. Calls for the devolution of Renewables Obligation Certificates (ROCs), or its successor, to the Welsh Government; and

 

6.  Calls upon the Welsh Government to explore barriers to connection to the grid for small scale energy projects below 50mw.

 

The following amendments have been tabled:

 

Amendment 1 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

 

Delete point 3 and replace with:

 

Notes the Welsh Government's continued commitment to meet its Climate Change 2020 targets;

 

Amendment 2 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Add as new point 5 and renumber accordingly:

 

Congratulates Tidal Energy Ltd on the unveiling of their DeltaStream device on 7 August 2014, which was made possible through the use of WEFO funds, and calls on the Welsh Government to ensure that such projects continue to be suitably supported in future years so that Wales can maximise the potential of marine renewables to promote a mixed grid approach.

 

Amendment 3 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Add as new point 5 and renumber accordingly:

 

Welcomes the recent development of two marine testing and demonstrating zones in Welsh waters and calls on the Welsh Government to provide regular updates to the Assembly on their progress towards enabling further technological development and commercialisation of wave and tidal renewable energy devices.

 

Amendment 4 - Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

 

Delete point 5 and replace with:

 

Believes that Wales's natural resources are valuable assets that could be used to cut carbon emissions, and calls for all powers over energy to be devolved in full, including all licencing, planning consenting and the Crown Estate.

 

Amendment 5 - Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

 

Add as new point at the end of the motion:

 

Calls on the Welsh Government to set a target for Wales to reach self-sufficiency in renewable electricity.

 

Amendment 6 - Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

 

Add as new point at the end of the motion:

 

Calls on the Welsh Government to implement an ambitious retrofitting programme to increase the energy efficiency of existing housing stock.

 

The item started at 15.15

 

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

 

NDM5584 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Welcomes the progress made at the United Nations Climate Change Summit 2014 in New York;

 

2. Urges the Welsh Government to ensure that deforestation does not continue in Wales and that its target of 100,000 hectares of new forestry is met by 2030;

 

3. Regrets that the Welsh Government is not on track to meet its Climate Change 2020 targets;

 

4. Calls upon the Welsh Government to encourage a wider range of renewable energies, including but not limited to, marine renewables, anaerobic digestion and hydropower;

 

5. Calls for the devolution of Renewables Obligation Certificates (ROCs), or its successor, to the Welsh Government; and

 

6.  Calls upon the Welsh Government to explore barriers to connection to the grid for small scale energy projects below 50mw.

 

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	39	50

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

 

The following amendments were tabled:

 

Amendment 1 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

 

Delete point 3 and replace with:

 

Notes the Welsh Government's continued commitment to meet its Climate Change 2020 targets;

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 1:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
25	0	26	51

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

 

Amendment 2 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Add as new point 5 and renumber accordingly:

 

Congratulates Tidal Energy Ltd on the unveiling of their DeltaStream device on 7 August 2014, which was made possible through the use of WEFO funds, and calls on the Welsh Government to ensure that such projects continue to be suitably supported in future years so that Wales can maximise the potential of marine renewables to promote a mixed grid approach.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 2:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
50	0	0	50

Amendment 2 was agreed.

 

Amendment 3 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

Add as new point 5 and renumber accordingly:

Welcomes the recent development of two marine testing and demonstrating zones in Welsh waters and calls on the Welsh Government to provide regular updates to the Assembly on their progress towards enabling further technological development and commercialisation of wave and tidal renewable energy devices.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 3:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
50	0	0	50

Amendment 3 was agreed.

 

Amendment 4 - Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

Delete point 5 and replace with:

Believes that Wales's natural resources are valuable assets that could be used to cut carbon emissions, and calls for all powers over energy to be devolved in full, including all licencing, planning consenting and the Crown Estate.

 

 A vote was taken on Amendment 4:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	36	50

Amendment 4 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 5 - Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

Add as new point at the end of the motion:

Calls on the Welsh Government to set a target for Wales to reach self-sufficiency in renewable electricity.

 

 A vote was taken on Amendment 5:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	36	50

Amendment 5 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 6 - Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

Add as new point at the end of the motion:

Calls on the Welsh Government to implement an ambitious retrofitting programme to increase the energy efficiency of existing housing stock.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 6:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
50	0	0	50

Amendment 6 was agreed.

 

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM5584 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Welcomes the progress made at the United Nations Climate Change Summit 2014 in New York;

 

2. Urges the Welsh Government to ensure that deforestation does not continue in Wales and that its target of 100,000 hectares of new forestry is met by 2030;

 

3. Regrets that the Welsh Government is not on track to meet its Climate Change 2020 targets;

 

4. Calls upon the Welsh Government to encourage a wider range of renewable energies, including but not limited to, marine renewables, anaerobic digestion and hydropower;

 

5. Welcomes the recent development of two marine testing and demonstrating zones in Welsh waters and calls on the Welsh Government to provide regular updates to the Assembly on their progress towards enabling further technological development and commercialisation of wave and tidal renewable energy devices.

 

6. Congratulates Tidal Energy Ltd on the unveiling of their DeltaStream device on 7 August 2014, which was made possible through the use of WEFO funds, and calls on the Welsh Government to ensure that such projects continue to be suitably supported in future years so that Wales can maximise the potential of marine renewables to promote a mixed grid approach.

 

7. Calls for the devolution of Renewables Obligation Certificates (ROCs), or its successor, to the Welsh Government; and

 

8.  Calls upon the Welsh Government to explore barriers to connection to the grid for small scale energy projects below 50mw.

 

9. Calls on the Welsh Government to implement an ambitious retrofitting programme to increase the energy efficiency of existing housing stock.

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
24	0	25	49

The motion as amended was not agreed.

NDM5587 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Believes that congestion on the M4 in the Newport area is detrimental to the Welsh economy, and that a sustainable and affordable resolution is required.

 

2. Affirms that the case has not been made for proceeding with the 'black route'.

 

3. Believes that committing the entirety of new Welsh borrowing powers to one project will limit investment elsewhere.

 

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to fully consider the 'blue route' on economic, traffic management, environmental and financial grounds.

 

The following amendments have been tabled:

 

Amendment 1 - Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

Delete all and replace with:

 

1. Believes that congestion on the M4 in the Newport area is detrimental to the Welsh economy, and that a sustainable and affordable resolution is required.

 

2. Affirms that a transparent case is lacking for proceeding with the 'black route' and calls on the Minister for Economy, Science and Transport to publish clear evidence that environmental issues have been fully considered and an effective due diligence process has taken place.

 

3. Believes that committing a significant portion of new Welsh borrowing powers to one project will limit investment elsewhere and undoubtedly have an effect on other transport schemes across Wales.

 

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to explain why the 'blue route' was ruled out prematurely and outline what economic, traffic management, environmental and financial grounds it failed to meet.

 

[If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2, 3 and 4 will be de-selected]

 

Amendment 2 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

 

Delete points 2, 3 and 4.

 

[If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 and 4 will be de-selected]

 

Amendment 3 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Add as new point 3 and renumber accordingly:

 

Believes investment in public transport and actions to encourage modal shift away from car use should be a priority as part of a sustainable, integrated transport plan.

 

Amendment 4 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Insert in point 4 after 'blue route':

 

as well as suitable public transport solutions

The item started at 16.14

 

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

 

NDM5587 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Believes that congestion on the M4 in the Newport area is detrimental to the Welsh economy, and that a sustainable and affordable resolution is required.

 

2. Affirms that the case has not been made for proceeding with the 'black route'.

 

3. Believes that committing the entirety of new Welsh borrowing powers to one project will limit investment elsewhere.

 

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to fully consider the 'blue route' on economic, traffic management, environmental and financial grounds.

 

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	36	50

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

 

The following amendments were tabled:

 

Amendment 1 - Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

 

Delete all and replace with:

1. Believes that congestion on the M4 in the Newport area is detrimental to the Welsh economy, and that a sustainable and affordable resolution is required.

 

2. Affirms that a transparent case is lacking for proceeding with the 'black route' and calls on the Minister for Economy, Science and Transport to publish clear evidence that environmental issues have been fully considered and an effective due diligence process has taken place.

3. Believes that committing a significant portion of new Welsh borrowing powers to one project will limit investment elsewhere and undoubtedly have an effect on other transport schemes across Wales.

4. Calls on the Welsh Government to explain why the 'blue route' was ruled out prematurely and outline what economic, traffic management, environmental and financial grounds it failed to meet.

 

 A vote was taken on Amendment 1:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
11	0	39	50

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 2 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

 

Delete points 2, 3 and 4.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 2:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
25	0	26	51

As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.

 

Amendment 3 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Add as new point 3 and renumber accordingly:

 

Believes investment in public transport and actions to encourage modal shift away from car use should be a priority as part of a sustainable, integrated transport plan.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 3:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
39	0	10	49

Amendment 3 was agreed.

 

Amendment 4 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Insert in point 4 after 'blue route':

 

as well as suitable public transport solutions

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 4:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	36	50

Amendment 4 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

 

NDM5587 Elin Jones (Ceredigion)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Believes that congestion on the M4 in the Newport area is detrimental to the Welsh economy, and that a sustainable and affordable resolution is required.

 

2. Affirms that the case has not been made for proceeding with the 'black route'.

 

3. Believes investment in public transport and actions to encourage modal shift away from car use should be a priority as part of a sustainable, integrated transport plan.

 

4. Believes that committing the entirety of new Welsh borrowing powers to one project will limit investment elsewhere.

 

5. Calls on the Welsh Government to fully consider the 'blue route' on economic, traffic management, environmental and financial grounds.

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
14	0	36	50

The motion as amended was not agreed.

The item started at 17.14

NDM5586 Bethan Jenkins (South Wales West)

 

A participating electorate, and how we can get it right with democracy.

 

Following on from the Scottish referendum, how can the National Assembly increase voter participation, and do we need to look to new ways of getting the vote out?

The item started at 17.25

 

NDM5586 Bethan Jenkins (South Wales West)

 

A participating electorate, and how we can get it right with democracy.

 

Following on from the Scottish referendum, how can the National Assembly increase voter participation, and do we need to look to new ways of getting the vote out?