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Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Act 2014
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Meeting: 03/12/2013 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly (Item 8.)
Stage 4 Standing Order 26.47 motion to approve the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
At the conclusion of Stage 3 the Minister may propose that the Bill be passed in accordance with Standing Order 26.47.
Stage 4 Standing Order 26.47 motion to approve the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
Decision:
The Item started at 17.28
At the conclusion of Stage 3 the Minister may propose that
the Bill be passed in accordance with Standing Order 26.47:
Stage 4 Standing Order 26.47 motion to approve the Further
and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
The motion was agreed in
accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Meeting: 03/12/2013 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly (Item 7.)
Stage 3 Standing Order 26.44 debate on the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
In accordance with Standing Order 26.36, amendments will be
disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate,
arise in the Bill.
The amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and
the groupings will be debated as follows:
1.
Review of operation of Act
4, 1
2.
Transitional arrangements
6, 7
3.
Representation on governing bodies
5, 5A, 3
Amendment 5 is the lead amendment in the
group
These amendments will be disposed of in
the order: 5A, 5, 3
4.
Consultation by the body
8
5.
Redundancy dismissal
2
Supporting
Documents
The
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
Decision:
The Item started at 16.41
In accordance with Standing Order 26.36, amendments will be
disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate,
arise in the Bill.
The amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and
the groupings will be debated as follows:
1.
Review of operation of Act
4, 1
2.
Transitional arrangements
6, 7
3.
Representation on governing bodies
5, 5A, 3
Amendment 5 is the lead amendment in the
group
These amendments will be disposed of in
the order: 5A, 5, 3
4.
Consultation by the body
8
5.
Redundancy dismissal
2
Voting was taken in the order set out in the Marshalled List
of Amendments.
Amendment 4 was agreed in accordance with Standing
Order 12.36.
A vote was taken on Amendment 1:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
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10 |
0 |
44 |
54 |
Amendment 1 was not agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 6:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
28 |
0 |
29 |
57 |
As required by Standing Order 6.20
the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his casting vote by voting against the amendment.
Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 7:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
28 |
0 |
29 |
57 |
As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding
Officer exercised his casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore,
the amendment was not agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 5A:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
27 |
1 |
28 |
56 |
Amendment 5A was not agreed.
A vote was taken on Amendment 5:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
27 |
15 |
13 |
55 |
Amendment 5 was agreed.
As amendment 5 was agreed, amendment 3 fell.
A vote was taken on Amendment 8:
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For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
28 |
0 |
29 |
57 |
As required by Standing Order 6.20
the Deputy Presiding Officer exercised his casting vote by voting against the
amendment. Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.
Amendment 2 was withdrawn.
All sections and schedules of the Bill were deemed agreed,
concluding Stage 3 proceedings.
Meeting: 24/10/2013 - Children, Young People and Education Committee - Fourth Assembly (Item 4)
4 Further and Higher Education ( Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill - Stage 2: Consideration of Amendments
Papers: Marshalled List of Amendments
Grouping of Amendments
In accordance with Standing Order 26.21 the Committee will dispose of amendments to the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate, arise in the Bill.
Supporting documents:
PDF 87 KBMinutes:
The Chair said that the Committee would
consider the amendments in the following order:
Sections 1 – 11
Schedules 1 and 2
The Committee disposed of the following
amendments:
Sections
1, 2 and 3: No amendments were
tabled to these sections, therefore these sections were deemed agreed.
Section: 4:
Amendment
4,
was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34 (i).
Section
5 & 6: No amendments were tabled to these sections, therefore these sections
were deemed agreed.
Section
7:
Amendment
1 – Simon Thomas
|
For |
Against |
Abstain |
|
Simon Thomas Bethan Jenkins Aled Roberts Angela Burns Suzy Davies |
Ann Jones Keith Davies Rebecca Evans Lynne Neagle David Rees |
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|
5 |
5 |
0 |
|
As there was an equality of votes, the
Chair cast her vote in the negative, in accordance with Standing Orders 17.37
and 6.20(ii). |
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Amendment
7 was not agreed. |
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Sections
8 and 9: No amendments were
tabled to these sections, therefore these sections were deemed agreed.
Amendment
9 was withdrawn in accordance with
Standing Order 26.66
New
Section
Amendment
10 – Aled Roberts
|
For |
Against |
Abstain |
|
Suzy Davies Angela Burns Aled Roberts Bethan Jenkins Simon Thomas |
Ann Jones Keith Davies Rebecca Evans Lynne Neagle David Rees |
|
|
5 |
5 |
0 |
|
As there was an equality of votes, the
Chair cast her vote in the negative, in accordance with Standing Orders 17.37
and 6.20(ii). |
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|
Amendment
10 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 13, was not moved, in accordance with Standing Order
26.65.
Amendment 14, was not moved, in accordance with Standing Order
26.65.
New
Section
Amendment
15 – Bethan Jenkins
|
For |
Against |
Abstain |
|
Bethan Jenkins Simon Thomas |
Ann Jones Keith Davies Rebecca Evans Lynne Neagle David Rees Suzy Davies Angela Burns Aled Roberts |
|
|
2 |
8 |
0 |
|
Amendment
15 was not agreed. |
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Section
10:
Amendment
11 – Aled Roberts
|
For |
Against |
Abstain |
|
Simon Thomas Bethan Jenkins Aled Roberts Angela Burns Suzy Davies |
Ann Jones Keith Davies Rebecca Evans Lynne Neagle David Rees |
|
|
5 |
5 |
0 |
|
As there was an equality of votes, the
Chair cast her vote in the negative, in accordance with Standing Orders 17.37
and 6.20(ii). |
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|
Amendment
11 was not agreed. |
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Section
11 & 12: No amendments were tabled to these sections, therefore these sections
were deemed agreed.
Schedule
1:
Amendment
2 – Simon Thomas
|
For |
Against |
Abstain |
|
Simon Thomas Bethan Jenkins Aled Roberts Angela Burns Suzy Davies |
Ann Jones Keith Davies Rebecca Evans Lynne Neagle David Rees |
|
|
5 |
5 |
|
|
As there was an equality of votes, the
Chair cast her vote in the negative, in accordance with Standing Orders 17.37
and 6.20(ii). |
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Amendment
8 was not agreed. |
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Amendment
8 – Angela Burns
|
For |
Against |
Abstain |
|
Simon Thomas Bethan Jenkins Aled Roberts Angela Burns Suzy Davies |
Ann Jones Keith Davies Rebecca Evans Lynne Neagle David Rees |
|
|
5 |
5 |
0 |
|
As there was an equality of votes, the
Chair cast her vote in the negative, in accordance with Standing Orders 17.37
and 6.20(ii). |
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|
Amendment
8 was not agreed. |
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Amendment 5 was
agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34 (i)
Amendment
6 – Huw Lewis
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For |
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Financial Resolution in respect of the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
NDM5301 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, for the
purposes of any provisions resulting from the Further and Higher Education
(Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill, agrees to any increase in
expenditure of a kind referred to in Standing Order 26.69 arising in
consequence of the Bill. Decision: The item started
at 18.07 NDM5301 Lesley Griffiths (Wrexham) To propose
that the National Assembly for Wales, for the purposes of any provisions
resulting from the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information)
(Wales) Bill, agrees to any increase in expenditure of a kind referred to in
Standing Order 26.69 arising in consequence of the Bill. The motion was agreed in accordance with
Standing Order 12.36.
Debate on the general principles of the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
NDM5300 Huw Lewis (Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales in
accordance with Standing Order 26.11: Agrees to the general principles of the Further and
Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill. The Further and Higher Education (Governance and
Information) (Wales) Bill and Explanatory Memorandum were laid before the
Assembly on 29 April 2013. The report of Children and Young Peoples Committee on the
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill was laid
before the Assembly on 19 July 2013. Supporting Documents Decision: The item started
at 17.26 NDM5300 Huw Lewis (Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney) To propose that the National Assembly for Wales in
accordance with Standing Order 26.11: Agrees to the general principles of the Further and
Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill. The motion was agreed in accordance with
Standing Order 12.36.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Consideration of Draft Report
Supporting
documents: CYP(4)-21-13(p.1) – Draft
Report Minutes: 2.1 The Committee considered this item in private session.
Consideration of draft report on the Further and Higher Education (Wales) Bill
CLA(4)19-13(p2) –
Draft Report Supporting documents:
The Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill - Ministerial scrutiny
Leighton Andrews AM, Minister for Education and Skills Andrew Clark, Deputy Director Further Education and Apprenticeship
Division Grace Martins, Senior Lawyer Neil Surman, Deputy Director Higher Education
Division Minutes: 2.1 Due to changes to the Welsh Government Cabinet, the
Minister could not be present for the session. Therefore, a motion was passed under
Standing Order 17.42 to go into private session until 10.30 to discuss the
Legislative Consent Memorandum regarding the Intellectual Property Bill.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Consideration of today's evidence
Item 6 Private
session Minutes: 6.1 The Committee considered this item in private session.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 9
Witness: - Minister for Education and Skills, Welsh Government Leighton Andrews
AM - Andrew Clark, Deputy Director Further Education and Apprenticeship
Division, Welsh Government - Grace Martins, Senior Lawyer, Welsh Government Minutes: 3.1 The Committee took evidence from Minister for Education
and Skills, Welsh Government Leighton Andrews AM. The Minister was accompanied
by his officials.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 8
Witness: Office for National Statistics (ONS) - Graeme Walker, Chair of the National Accounts Classification
Committee - Phil Stokoe, National Accounts Classification, Public Sector and
Households Division, Office for National Statistics Supporting documents: CYP(4)-19-13(p1)
ONS Classification Supporting documents: Minutes: On the basis of the resolution of the Committee passed at
the meeting on 13 June 2013, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vii), the
Committee considered this item in private session.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Consideration of today's evidence
Item 6 Private
session Minutes: 6.1 The Committee considered this item in private session.
2 Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 6
Witness: Construction Skills Wales Witnesses: - Gareth Williams, CITB Cymru/Wales Careers and Qualifications Manager Supporting documents: CYP(4)-18-13(p1)
- Construction Skills Wales Supporting documents: Minutes: 2.1 The Committee took evidence from Gareth Williams, Wales
Careers and Qualifications Manager, representing Construction Skills Wales
3 Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 7
Witness:
Higher
Education Wales (HEW) -
Professor April McMahon, Vice-Chancellor, Aberystwyth University -
Professor Medwin Hughes, Vice-Chancellor, University of Wales Trinity Saint
David, and Swansea Metropolitan University of Wales Trinity Saint David, and
University of Wales -
Mr Ben Arnold, Policy Adviser, Higher Education Wales Supporting
documents: CYP(4)-18-13(p2)
HEW Supporting documents: Minutes: 3.1 The Committee took evidence from the representatives of
Higher Education Wales (HEW).
3 Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 5
National
Union of Students Witnesses: - Kieron Rees, Representation and Policy Officer, National
Union of Students Wales Supporting
documents: CYP(4)-17-13(p2)
National Union of Students Supporting documents: Minutes: 3.1 The Committee took evidence from Kieron Rees, Representation
and Policy Officer, National Union of Students Wales.
2 Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 4
Witnesses: University and College Union (UCU) - Chris Jones, Chair of UCU Wales
Further Education Sector Committee - Margaret Phelan, Regional
Official, University and College Union (Wales), - Lisa Edwards, Temporary
Political Liaison Officer, University and College Union (Wales) Supporting documents: CYP(4)-17-13(p1)
– UCU Supporting documents: Minutes: 4.1 The Committee took evidence from the representatives of
the University and College Union (UCU).
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Consideration of the evidence
Item 5 Private
session Minutes: 5.1 The Committee considered this item in private session.
Consideration of Correspondence in relation to Further and Higher Education (Wales) Bill
CLA(4)-15-14(p6) – Letter from the Minister
for Education and Skills Supporting documents:
2 Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 2
Colegau Cymru Witnesses: David Jones, former Chair of Colegau
Cymru Mark Jones, Chair, Colegau Cymru John Graystone, Chief Executive, Colegau
Cymru Supporting documents: CYP(4)-16-13(p1)
– Colegau Cymru Supporting documents: Minutes: 2.1 The Committee took evidence from Colegau
Cymru.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Consideration of the evidence
Item 5 Private
session Minutes: 5.1 The Committee considered this item in private session.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 3
Student Loan Company Witnesses: David Wallace, Deputy CEO & Director
of Strategic Development Minutes: 3.1
The Committee took evidence from Student Loans Company.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Evidence Session 1
Minister for Education and Skills Leighton Andrews AM Witnesses: ·
Grace Martins, Senior Lawyer, Welsh Government Supporting Papers: Further and Higher Education (Governance
and Information) (Wales) Bill Explanatory Memorandum Minutes: 2.1 The Committee took evidence from Minister for Education
and Skills Leighton Andrews AM and his colleagues. The witnesses responded to
questions from members of the Committee.
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill : Consideration of the Minister's Evidence
Private session Minutes: 5.1 The Committee considered this item in private session.
Financial implications of the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
Supporting documents: Minutes: 6.1 The Committee discussed the Research Service paper on
financial implications of the Further and Higher Education (Governance and
Information) (Wales) Bill and agreed that the financial and accountancy aspects
relating to the Bill were of particular interest. 6.2 The Committee Clerk agreed to write to the Welsh
Government to determine which Minister to invite to Committee to address these
wider issues. 6.3 Committee requested that the Research Service provide a
detailed breakdown on the annual costs in the FE and HE Bill and how these were
calculated; a definition on what constitutes a non-profit organisation; and a
paper on the different approaches adopted in England, Scotland and Northern
Ireland in their classification of Further Education Institutions (FEIs).
Proposed approach for scrutiny of the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
Minutes: 3.1 Members discussed the proposed approach to the scrutiny
of the Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill
Further and Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill: Stage 1 - Approach to scrutiny
Papers: CYP(4)-13-13(p.1) - Further and
Higher Education (Governance and Information) (Wales) Bill – Stage 1
consideration Supporting documents: Minutes: On the basis of the resolution of the Committee passed at
the meeting on 25 April 2013, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi), the
Committee considered this item in private session.
Briefing Session on the Further and Higher Education (Wales) Bill White Paper
Further
and Higher Education (Wales) Bill White Paper ·
Neil Surman, Head of
Higher Education Division, Welsh Government ·
Jane Ellis, Senior Further Education Governance
Officer, Welsh Government Minutes: 4.1 The officials responded to questions from members of the
Committee on the Further and Higher Education (Wales) Bill White Paper.
Briefing Session on the Further and Higher Education (Wales) Bill White Paper
Further
and Higher Education (Wales) Bill White Paper ·
Neil Surman, Head of
Higher Education Division, Welsh Government ·
Jane Ellis, Senior Further Education Governance
Officer, Welsh Government Supporting documents: Minutes: 2.1 The Committee received a factual briefing
from Welsh Government officials on the Further
and Higher Education (Wales) Bill White Paper. |