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NDM8857 Welsh Conservatives debate - Employer National Insurance
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Meeting: 19/03/2025 - Plenary (Item 7)
Welsh Conservatives debate - Employer National Insurance
NDM8857 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Notes the UK Government’s increase to
employer national insurance contributions, coming into effect for the 2025-26
tax year.
2. Recognises the detrimental impact the
increase to employer national insurance contributions will have on Welsh
charities, not-for-profits and voluntary organisations.
3. Calls on the Welsh Government to make
urgent representations to the UK Government to ensure Welsh charities,
not-for-profits and voluntary organisations delivering public services will be
included in the UK Government’s definition of ONS-defined public sector
employees and will be as a result reimbursed for the rise in employer national
insurance contributions.
The following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete all after point 1 and replace with
Recognises that:
a) national insurance is not devolved;
b) Welsh charities, not-for-profits and
voluntary organisations are concerned about the impact of increases to employer
national insurance contributions; and
c) the Welsh Government has made and will
continue to make representations to the UK Government on behalf of public
services and Welsh charities, not-for-profits and voluntary organisations about
employer national insurance contributions.
If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will
be de-selected.
Amendment 2 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)
Add as new point after point 2. and renumber
accordingly:
Regrets:
a) the intention to allocate Treasury
reimbursements to core public services on the basis of the Barnett Formula,
which would leave Wales facing a shortfall compared to England.
b) the lack of clarity as to the full extent
of costs to core public services in Wales as a result of these changes, less
than a month before the start of the next financial year and after the passing
of the Welsh budget.
Amendment 3 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)
Add as new point at the end of motion:
Calls on the Welsh Government to make urgent
representations to the UK Government to ensure that the costs of increases to
employer NI contributions to core public services in Wales are covered in full
by the UK Treasury.
Minutes:
The item started at 17.47
Voting on the
motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A vote was
taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM8857 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Notes the UK Government’s increase to
employer national insurance contributions, coming into effect for the 2025-26
tax year.
2. Recognises the detrimental impact the
increase to employer national insurance contributions will have on Welsh
charities, not-for-profits and voluntary organisations.
3. Calls on the Welsh Government to make
urgent representations to the UK Government to ensure Welsh charities,
not-for-profits and voluntary organisations delivering public services will be
included in the UK Government’s definition of ONS-defined public sector
employees and will be as a result reimbursed for the rise in employer national
insurance contributions.
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
14 |
0 |
36 |
50 |
The motion
without amendment was not agreed.
The following
amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete all after point 1 and replace with
a) national insurance
is not devolved;
b) Welsh charities,
not-for-profits and voluntary organisations are concerned about the impact of
increases to employer national insurance contributions; and
c) the Welsh
Government has made and will continue to make representations to the UK
Government on behalf of public services and Welsh charities, not-for-profits
and voluntary organisations about employer national insurance contributions.
A vote was taken on amendment
1:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
26 |
0 |
24 |
50 |
Amendment 1
was agreed.
As amendment 1
was agreed, amendment 2 was de-selected.
Amendment 3 Heledd Fychan (South Wales Central)
Add as new point at the end of motion:
A vote was taken on amendment
3:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
49 |
0 |
1 |
50 |
Amendment 3
was agreed.
A vote was
taken on the motion as amended:
To propose
that the Senedd:
1. Notes the UK Government’s increase to employer
national insurance contributions, coming into effect for the 2025-26 tax year.
2. Recognises that:
a) national insurance is not devolved;
b) Welsh charities, not-for-profits and
voluntary organisations are concerned about the impact of increases to employer
national insurance contributions; and
c) the Welsh Government has made and will
continue to make representations to the UK Government on behalf of public
services and Welsh charities, not-for-profits and voluntary organisations about
employer national insurance contributions.
3. Calls on the Welsh Government to make urgent
representations to the UK Government to ensure that the costs of increases to
employer NI contributions to core public services in Wales are covered in full
by the UK Treasury.
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
36 |
0 |
14 |
50 |
The motion as
amended was agreed.