Meetings
Routes into post-16 education and training
This page gives details of any meetings held which will, or did, discuss the matter, and includes links to the relevant Papers, Agendas and Minutes.
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Meeting: 04/02/2026 - Plenary (Item 5)
Debate on the Children, Young People and Education Committee Report: Routes into post-16 education and training
NDM9134 Buffy
Williams (Rhondda)
To
propose that the Senedd:
Notes
the report of the Children, Young People and Education Committee ‘Routes into
post-16 education and training’ which was laid in
the Table Office on 12 November 2025.
Note:
Responses from the Welsh
Government and Medr to
the report were laid in the Table Office on 28 January 2026.
Minutes:
The
item started at 15.28
NDM9134 Buffy
Williams (Rhondda)
To
propose that the Senedd:
Notes
the report of the Children, Young People and Education Committee ‘Routes into
post-16 education and training’ which was laid in the Table Office on 12 November 2025.
Note:
The response from the Welsh Government to the report was laid in
the Table Office on 28 January 2026. Medr responded to
the Committee on 27 January 2026.
The
motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Meeting: 04/02/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 04/02/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 04/02/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Supporting documents:
Meeting: 04/02/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 04/02/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 04/02/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Meeting: 28/01/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 7)
- Webcast for 28/01/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 28/01/2026 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the Welsh Government response
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 12 , View reasons restricted (7/1)
Minutes:
7.1 Members discussed the response from the Welsh Government and agreed which areas they would like to focus on during the plenary debate.
Meeting: 06/11/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 06/11/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Meeting: 23/10/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 23/10/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 23/10/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the draft report
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 19 , View reasons restricted (3/1)
Minutes:
3.1 Subject to minor amendments, the Committee agreed the draft report. The final report would be published on 12 November.
Meeting: 08/10/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 08/10/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 08/10/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Routes into post-16 education and training - considerations of the draft report
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 22 , View reasons restricted (3/1)
Minutes:
3.1 Members discussed the draft report. They agreed the final report would be agreed and signed off at the meeting on 23rd October.
Meeting: 17/09/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 7)
- Webcast for 17/09/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 17/09/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 26 , View reasons restricted (7/1)
- Restricted enclosure 27 , View reasons restricted (7/2)
Minutes:
7.1 The Committee considered the second half of the draft report. The draft report would be considered again at the meeting on 8 October.
Meeting: 03/07/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
- Webcast for 03/07/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 03/07/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the draft report
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 30 , View reasons restricted (6/1)
Minutes:
6.1 Members discussed the draft report, an amended version together with the rest of the report would be considered at the first meeting back after the summer recess.
Meeting: 12/06/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
- Webcast for 12/06/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 12/06/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the key issues
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 33 , View reasons restricted (6/1)
- Restricted enclosure 34 , View reasons restricted (6/2)
- Restricted enclosure 35 , View reasons restricted (6/3)
- Restricted enclosure 36 , View reasons restricted (6/4)
Minutes:
6.1 The Committee considered the remainder of the key issues. The draft report would be considered at the future Committee meeting.
6.2 The Committee agreed to respond to the Welsh Government’s consultation on its proposed changes to the Learner Travel Operational Guidance, highlighting relevant gathering during the inquiry.
Meeting: 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Supporting documents:
- Letter to the Chair of the Children, Young People and Education Committee from ColegauCymru, item 3
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Meeting: 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
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Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the key issues
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 43 , View reasons restricted (6/1)
- Restricted enclosure 44 , View reasons restricted (6/2)
- Restricted enclosure 45 , View reasons restricted (6/3)
- Restricted enclosure 46 , View reasons restricted (6/4)
- Restricted enclosure 47 , View reasons restricted (6/5)
Minutes:
6.1 The Committee considered the key issues. The key issues would be considered again at the meeting on 12 June.
Meeting: 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
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Meeting: 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Supporting documents:
Meeting: 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Meeting: 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Meeting: 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 21/05/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Supporting documents:
- Letter to the Chair of the Children, Young People and Education Committee from Careers Wales, item 3
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Meeting: 02/04/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
- Webcast for 02/04/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 02/04/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the evidence
Minutes:
6.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard during the previous session and throughout the inquiry. It agreed to write to some stakeholder for some further information.
Meeting: 02/04/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
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Lynne Neagle MS, Cabinet Secretary for Education
Vikki Howells MS, Minister for Further and Higher Education
Jack Sargeant MS, Minister for Culture, Skills and Social Partnership
Hannah Wharf, Deputy Director, Support for Learners, Welsh Government
Ruth Meadows, Director of Tertiary Education, Welsh Government
Jo Salway, Director, Social Partnership, Employability & Fair Work, Welsh Government
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 73 , View reasons restricted (3/1)
- Welsh Government, item 3
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Minutes:
3.1 The Committee heard evidence from the Cabinet Secretary and Ministers.
3.2 The Minister for Culture, Skills and Social
Partnership agreed to provide a note on:
- The education business partnership run by Careers Wales.
- The work Careers Wales is doing on work experience and the scale of how much it can deliver.
3.3 The Minister for Culture, Skills and Social Partnership also agreed to ask Medr to consider issuing the Committee with data about foundation and higher apprenticeship starts alongside anticipated future trends in apprenticeship provision.
3.4 The Cabinet Secretary for Education agreed to provide a note on the work currently being undertaken by the Welsh Government and partners regarding junior apprenticeships, including the work being undertaken by Medr, and timelines for any future expansion of the programme.
3.5 The Minister for Further and Higher Education agreed to provide a note on:
- Data on the number of Welsh-domiciled young people who put a Welsh university as their first choice university, if available.
- The different scholarships that are available to learners to study through the medium of Welsh.
- The timeline for developing an integrated, comprehensive strategy for education and vocational training.
3.4 The Committee agreed to send the questions unasked for a written response.
Meeting: 02/04/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 1)
- Webcast for 02/04/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 02/04/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Routes into post-16 education and training - Discussion with the Citizen Engagement Team about engagement findings
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 77 , View reasons restricted (1/1)
Minutes:
1.1 The Committee received a presentation from the Citizen Engagement Manager on findings of the surveys that the Citizen Engagement Team had undertook on behalf of the Committee for the inquiry.
Meeting: 26/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 2)
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Cllr Lis Burnett, Spokesperson for the Welsh Local Government Association
Sharon Davies, Head of Education, Welsh Local Government Association
Gwyn Tudur, Assistant Head of Education at Gwynedd County Council and
representing the Association of Directors of Education in Wales
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 81 , View reasons restricted (2/1)
- Welsh Government Association WLGA and Association of Directors of Education in Wales ADEW, item 2
PDF 516 KB
Minutes:
2.1 The Committee heard evidence from the Welsh Local Government Association and the Association of Directors of Education in Wales.
2.1 The WLGA agreed to provide information on which Local Authorities have carried out assessments regarding the impact of travel on learners' ability to access post-16 education and training.
Meeting: 26/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
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Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the evidence
Minutes:
6.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard in the previous sessions.
Meeting: 26/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
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David Hagendyk, Chief Executive, Colegau Cymru
Lisa Michelle Thomas, Principal of Merthyr College and Chair of Colegau Cymru
Supporting documents:
Minutes:
3.1 The Committee heard evidence from Colegau Cymru.
Meeting: 26/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 4)
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Meeting: 26/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 4)
- Webcast for 26/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Meeting: 20/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 1.)
1. Routes into post-16 education and training - Committee Visits
The Committee is undertaking visits to Further and Higher education institutions for its inquiry into routes in post 16 education and training.
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 100 , View reasons restricted (1./1)
- Restricted enclosure 101 , View reasons restricted (1./2)
Meeting: 13/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
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Routes into post-16 education and training - briefing session
Dr Katy Huxley, Research Fellow, Spark, and Administrative Data Research Wales, Cardiff University
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 103 , View reasons restricted (6/1)
Minutes:
6.1 The Committee received a briefing from Dr Katy Huxley.
Meeting: 13/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 7)
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Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the evidence
Minutes:
7.1 The Committee considered the evidence it has heard in the previous sessions.
Meeting: 13/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 2)
- Webcast for 13/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Dona Lewis, Chief Executive, National Centre for Learning Welsh
Dr Ioan Matthews, Chief Executive, Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol
Gwenllian Owen, Senior Manager for Higher Education, Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol
Dr Gwennan Schiavone, Chief Executive, CYDAG
Matthew McAvoy, Secondary Leader, CYDAG
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 109 , View reasons restricted (2/1)
- National Centre for Learning Welsh (Translation), item 2
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- Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol, item 2
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Minutes:
2.1 The Committee heard evidence from the National Centre for Learning Welsh, Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol and CYDAG.
2.2 CYDAG agreed to provide a note on examples of good practice in Wales where schools and local colleges are collaborating effectively and also examples where there is more competition and ineffective collaboration. They also agreed to provide examples of inconsistencies around learner transport policies and how this affects learners.
2.3 The Committee agreed to send the unasked questions for a written response.
Meeting: 13/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
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Faith O’Brian, Managing Director, Cambrian Training
Jude Holloway, Managing Director, Educ8 Training Group
Supporting documents:
- Cambrian Training, item 3
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- Educ8 Training Group, item 3
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Minutes:
3.1 The Committee heard evidence from Cambrian Training and Educ8 Training Group.
Meeting: 05/03/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
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Jassa Scott, Strategic Director, Estyn
Catherine Evans, Assistant Director, Estyn
Mark Campion, Assistant Director, Estyn
Supporting documents:
Minutes:
3.1 The Committee heard evidence from Estyn.
3.2 Estyn agreed to provide further information on the support that is provided when compulsory school age ends including examples of where there are specific problems but also where there are particular examples of what works well.
Meeting: 13/02/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 4)
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Meeting: 06/02/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 8)
- Webcast for 06/02/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 06/02/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the evidence
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 127 , View reasons restricted (8/1)
Minutes:
8.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard in the previous session.
8.2 The Committee agreed to invite a panel of work based training representatives and academic to give evidence on 13 March. It also agree to conduct engagement visits on 20 March, including to a school sixth form and a further education college.
Meeting: 06/02/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 5)
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Lisa Mytton, Strategic Director, National Training Federation for Wales [via zoom]
Dr Ben Calvert, Vice-Chancellor of the University of South Wales and Vice-Chair of Universities Wales [via zoom]
Amanda Wilkinson, Director of Universities Wales [via zoom]
Supporting documents:
- Response from National Training Federation Wales (NTFW), item 5
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- Response from Universities Wales, item 5
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Minutes:
5.1 The Committee heard evidence from Universities Wales and the National Training Federation Wales.
5.2 Universities Wales and the National Training Federation Wales agreed to respond in writing to any questions that the Committee did not have time to ask during the evidence session
Meeting: 06/02/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 4)
- Webcast for 06/02/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Nerys Bourne, Director of Customer Strategy and Service Development, Careers Wales
Mark Owen, Head of Services to Stakeholders, Careers Wales
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 136 , View reasons restricted (4/1)
- Response from Careers Wales, item 4
PDF 284 KB
Minutes:
4.1 The Committee heard evidence from Careers Wales.
Meeting: 06/02/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
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Simon Pirotte, Chief Executive Officer, Medr
Rhian Edwards, Executive Director for Policy, Medr
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Minutes:
3.1 The Committee heard evidence from Medr.
3.2 When published, Medr agreed to submit their statistical analysis of progression from year 11 to different types of tertiary education as evidence to the Committee.
Meeting: 29/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
- Webcast for 29/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Routes into post-16 education and training - consideration of the evidence
Minutes:
6.1 The Committee considered the evidence it had heard in the previous sessions.
Meeting: 29/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 3)
- Webcast for 29/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 29/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Deb Austin, Parent [via zoom]
Karen Berell, Parent
Supporting documents:
- Paper 4 - Response from Parent, item 3
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- RET 08 Parent (Private) , View reasons restricted (3/2)
- RET 09 Individual (Private) , View reasons restricted (3/3)
Minutes:
3.1 The Committee heard evidence from representatives of Parents’ Voices in Wales.
Meeting: 29/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 2)
- Webcast for 29/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Sion Amlyn, Policy and Casework Official The National Association of Schoolmasters Union of Women Teachers (NASUWT) [via zoom]
Ioan Rhys Jones, General Secretary, Undeb Cenedlaethol Athrawon Cymru (UCAC)
Mary van den Heuvel, Senior Wales Policy Officer, National Education Union Cymru (NEU)
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 153 , View reasons restricted (2/1)
- Paper 1 NASUWT, item 2
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- Paper 2 UCAC (Translation), item 2
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- Paper 3 NEU Cymru, item 2
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Minutes:
2.1 The Committee heard evidence from School Teaching Unions.
2.2 Mary van den Heuvel from NEU declared that she’s a Member of the Equality and Human Rights Commission Wales Committee and was co-opted for a couple of years to Careers Wales.
2.3 NASUWT agreed to provide any available information on whether an equivalent to the Baker clause in England would help address the issue of access to schools in Wales.
2.3 It was agreed that the questions unasked would be sent for a written response.
Meeting: 22/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 1.)
Routes into post-16 education and training: Stakeholder discussion [invitee only]
The Committee will be holding a private stakeholder discussion as part of its inquiry into Routes into post-16 education and training
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 159 , View reasons restricted (1./1)
Meeting: 15/01/2025 - Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee (Item 2)
- Webcast for 15/01/2025 - Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
- Transcript for 15/01/2025 - Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee
2 Invitation to attend meetings relating to the Children, Young People and Education Committee’s inquiry ‘Routes into post-16 education and training’
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Meeting: 09/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
- Webcast for 09/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 09/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Meeting: 09/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 6)
- Webcast for 09/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
- Transcript for 09/01/2025 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee
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Meeting: 28/11/2024 - Children, Young People, and Education Committee (Item 2)
Routes into post-16 education and training- consideration of the scope and approach
Supporting documents:
- Restricted enclosure 173 , View reasons restricted (2/1)
Minutes:
2.1 Subject to minor amendments to the terms of reference and an addition to the oral evidence schedule the Committee agreed the scope and approach to the inquiry. A written consultation would be launched next week, oral evidence and engagement activities would take place in the Spring term.