Meetings

PAC(4)-29-13 Paper 1

Helen Birtwhistle – Director, Welsh NHS Confederation

Allison Williams, Chief Executive of Cwm Taf Health Board

2.1 The Committee questioned Helen Birtwhistle, Director, Welsh NHS Confederation and Allison Williams, Chief Executive of Cwm Taf Health Board, on Health Finances 2012-13 and beyond.

Action points:

Allison Williams agreed to send a note on the financial situation of Cwm Taf Health Board at month 7 of this financial year.

Allison Williams agreed to send a note on the total amount of drug wastage for Cwm Taf Health Board in the 2012-13 financial year.

6.1 The Committee considered the evidence received on Health Finances 2012-13 and beyond.

PAC(4)-28-13 paper 2

Adam Cairns, Chief Executive, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board

2.1 The Committee questioned Adam Cairns, Chief Executive Cardiff and Vale University Health Board on Health Finances 2013-13 and beyond.

Action point:

·       Mr Cairns agreed to send a note on how the Health Board had calculated the 14% figure reached regarding less effectiveness of consultant’s contract.

·       Mr Cairns agreed to send a note on the current number of patients in the Health Board’s awaiting transfer of care

PAC(4)-28-13 paper 1

David Sissling - Director General for Health & Social Services/Chief Executive, NHS Wales

Kevin Flynn – Deputy Chief Executive NHS Wales

Martin Sollis – Director of Finance, Welsh Government

2.1 The Committee questioned David Sissling Director General for Health & Social Services/Chief Executive, NHS Wales, Kevin Flynn, Deputy Chief Executive NHS Wales and Martin Sollis, Director of Finance Welsh Government on health Finances 2012-13 and beyond.

Action Points:

·       Mr Sissling agreed to send details of the costs incurred by Health Boards for external support with budget management.

·       Mr Sissling agreed to send details of the Townsend Formula.

·       Mr Sissling agreed to send a note detailing analysis undertaken of cancellation of elective procedures during winter 2012/13.

6.1 The Committee commented on its draft report on Health Finances and agreed to consider it further at a future meeting.

4.1 Due to time constraints, the Committee did not undertake this item.

Via Video Conference: Betsi Cadwaldr University Health Board (09:00 – 9:45)

Mary Burrows, Chief Executive, Betsi Cadwaldr University Health Board

Cardiff and Vale University Health Board (9:45 – 10:30)

Adam Cairns, Chief Executive Cardiff and Vale University Health Board

Kevin Orford, Interim Financial Director, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board

2.1 The Chair welcomed Mary Burrows, Chief Executive, Betsi Cadwaldr University Health Board; and Geoff Lang, Executive Director of Primary Care and Mental Health Services.

2.2 The Committee questioned the witnesses.

Action points:

Betsi Cadwaldr University Health Board was asked to provide:

·         a note on the amount of funding provided to local authorities and third sector bodies to support the Health Board in delivering services; and

·         figures detailing formal complaints, concerns and compliments made to the Health Board, including the trends over the last three years. The Committee noted that it would also ask for similar figures from other Health Boards.

2.3 The Chair welcomed Adam Cairns, Chief Executive, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board; and Kevin Orford, Interim Financial Director, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board.

2.4 The Committee questioned the witnesses.

Action points:

Cardiff and Vale University Health Board was asked to provide:

·         Clarification on how the University Health Board shares good practice with other organisations on the effective purchase of consumables.

·         A note on the amount of funding provided to local authorities and third sector bodies to support the Health Board in delivering services.

Helen Birtwhistle, Director, Welsh NHS Confederation

3.1 The Chair welcomed Helen Birtwhistle, Director, Welsh NHS Confederation.

3.2 The Committee questioned the witness.

PAC(4) 27-12 – Paper 1 – Welsh Government

David Sissling, Director General, Health, Social Services & Children

Kevin Flynn, Director of Delivery/Deputy Chief Executive, NHS Wales

Alan Brace, Director of Finance and Procurement, Aneurin Bevan Health Board

2.1 The Chair welcomed David Sissling, Director General, Health, Social Services and Children; Kevin Flynn, Director of Delivery/Deputy Chief Executive, NHS Wales; and Alan Brace, Interim Director of Finance.

2.2 The Committee scrutinised the witnesses.

Action points:

The Welsh Government agreed to provide:

·         Further information on costs associated with pay protection packages.

·         Further information on how Abertawe Bro Morgannwg Health Board has made savings whilst also making work-force reductions.

·         Further information on the increase of elderly people being treated in Accident and Emergency.

6.1 Owing to time constraints, the Committee agreed to discuss the evidence received on Health Finances at its next meeting.

5.1 The Committee discussed how it wished to handle the Auditor General’s report on Health Finances.

PAC(4) 16-12 – Paper 1 – Wales Audit Office report ‘Health Finances’

6.1 The Chair invited the Auditor General for Wales (supported by Gillian Body, Assistant Auditor General; and Matthew Coe, Financial Audit Manager) to brief the Committee on the Wales Audit Office’s report ‘Health Finances.’

6.2 The Auditor General briefed the Committee on key issues arising from his report and responded to Members’ questions.

Action point:

The Auditor General for Wales agreed to provide:

·         A note on when Local Health Boards were offered brokerage by the Welsh Government.

7.1 The Committee agreed to undertake an inquiry into Health Finances.