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NDM7276 Brexit Party Debate - Devolution

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Meeting: 26/02/2020 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 8)

Brexit Party Debate - Devolution

NDM7276 Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Regrets the failure of Welsh devolution to date.

The following amendments have been tabled:

Amendment 1 - Neil McEvoy (South Wales Central)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Regrets that Welsh devolution has been hindered to date by the failure to devolve further powers.

2. Calls for Welsh devolution to be strengthened by:

a) the devolution of air passenger duty; and

b) the full legislative devolution of the justice system and the maintenance of independent Welsh institutions of justice.

[If Amendment 1 is agreed amendments 2, 3 and 4 will be de-selected]

Amendment 2 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Welcomes the collective contributions that have been made by political parties on all sides and by wider civic society to making devolution the settled will of the Welsh people.

[If Amendment 2 is agreed amendments 3 and 4 will be de-selected]

Amendment 3 - Sian Gwenllian (Arfon)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Regrets the dismal record of the Labour Welsh Government that has been in power continuously since the inception of devolution.

2. Believes that successive Westminster UK Governments – under both Labour and the Conservatives – have presided over intergenerational poverty and underinvestment in Wales.

3. Believes that decisions about Wales’s future should be made by those who live and work here.

4. Believes that having the economic and fiscal levers of an independent country is the key to Wales’s future prosperity.

5. Agrees that the power to call a future referendum on independence should lie with the elected representatives of the people of Wales free from any veto by Westminster. 

[If Amendment 3 is agreed amendment 4 will be de-selected]

Amendment 4 - Darren Millar (Clwyd West)

Delete 'Welsh devolution' and replace with 'successive Welsh Governments'. 

Amendment 5 - Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Believes that the National Assembly for Wales should be abolished.

Amendment 6 - Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Believes that practical alternatives to devolution, in the absence of a National Assembly for Wales, include democratising the NHS and giving greater powers to parent-governors to determine schools's education policy.

 

 

Minutes:

The item started at 17.16

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM7276 Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Regrets the failure of Welsh devolution to date.

The following amendments have been tabled:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

5

0

46

51

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Neil McEvoy (South Wales Central)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Regrets that Welsh devolution has been hindered to date by the failure to devolve further powers.

2. Calls for Welsh devolution to be strengthened by:

a) the devolution of air passenger duty; and

b) the full legislative devolution of the justice system and the maintenance of independent Welsh institutions of justice.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

1

0

50

51

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

Amendment 2 - Rebecca Evans (Gower)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Welcomes the collective contributions that have been made by political parties on all sides and by wider civic society to making devolution the settled will of the Welsh people.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

27

0

24

51

Amendment 2 was agreed.

As Amendment 2 was agreed amendments 3 and 4 were de-selected

Amendment 5 - Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Believes that the National Assembly for Wales should be abolished.

A vote was taken on amendment 5:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

2

0

46

48

Amendment 5 was not agreed.

Amendment 6 - Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Believes that practical alternatives to devolution, in the absence of a National Assembly for Wales, include democratising the NHS and giving greater powers to parent-governors to determine schools's education policy. 

A vote was taken on amendment 6:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

5

0

46

51

Amendment 6 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM7276 Caroline Jones (South Wales West)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Welcomes the collective contributions that have been made by political parties on all sides and by wider civic society to making devolution the settled will of the Welsh people.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

35

9

7

51

The motion as amended was agreed.