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NDM7118 Plaid Cymru debate - Assembly Reform
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Meeting: 10/07/2019 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 8)
Plaid Cymru debate - Assembly Reform
NDM7118 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales:
1. Calls for an increase in the number of
Assembly Members.
2. Calls for immediate action in order to
increase the number of Assembly Members in time for the start of the Sixth
Assembly.
3. Calls for reform of the Assembly
electoral system, and the introduction of the single transferable vote system
for electing Members in time for the next Assembly elections in 2021.
The following amendments have been tabled:
Amendment 1 - Caroline
Jones (South Wales West)
Delete all and replace with;
To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales:
1. Notes the report of the Expert Panel on
Assembly Electoral Reform.
2. Believes that there is no appetite
amongst the voting public to increase the number of politicians in Wales at
this time, and that efforts should focus instead on:
a) enacting the proposals of the 2018
Review of Parliamentary Constituencies for election to the House of Commons;
b) speeding up local government electoral
reform in Wales.
A
Parliament that works for Wales - The report of the Expert Panel on Assembly
Electoral Reform
[If amendment 1 is
agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be de-selected]
Amendment 2 - Jane
Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete all and replace with:
To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales:
1. Notes the publication of A Parliament
that Works for Wales and its recommendations.
2. Agrees that an increase in the number of
Assembly Members is needed.
3. Calls for further cross-party work to
take these matters forward.
A
Parliament that works for Wales - The report of the Expert Panel on Assembly
Electoral Reform
[If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will
be de-selected]
Amendment 3 - Darren
Millar (Clwyd West)
Delete all and replace with:
To propose that the National Assembly for
Wales:
1. Recognises that there are significant
challenges in the capacity of Assembly Members to undertake satisfactory
scrutiny of legislation and the Welsh Government.
2. Calls for further investigation into the
impact of any increase in Assembly Members and whether there is public support
for such a move.
3. Calls for any increase in the number of
Assembly Members to be funded via overall savings to taxpayers arising as a
result of a reduction in the overall number of elected representatives in
Wales.
4. Calls for any additional Assembly
Members to be elected on a no less proportional basis than is currently the
case.
Minutes:
The
item started at 17.41
Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM7118 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Calls for an increase in the number of Assembly Members.
2.
Calls for immediate action in order to increase the number of Assembly Members
in time for the start of the Sixth Assembly.
3.
Calls for reform of the Assembly electoral system, and the introduction of the
single transferable vote system for electing Members in time for the next Assembly
elections in 2021.
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
11 |
0 |
40 |
51 |
The motion without amendment was not
agreed.
The
following amendments were tabled:
Amendment
1 - Caroline Jones (South Wales West)
Delete
all and replace with;
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes the report of the Expert Panel on Assembly Electoral Reform.
2.
Believes that there is no appetite amongst the voting public to increase the
number of politicians in Wales at this time, and that efforts should focus
instead on:
a)
enacting the proposals of the 2018 Review of Parliamentary Constituencies for
election to the House of Commons;
b)
speeding up local government electoral reform in Wales.
A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
4 |
0 |
47 |
51 |
Amendment 1 was not agreed.
Amendment 2 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete all and
replace with:
To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes the
publication of A Parliament that Works for Wales and its recommendations.
2. Agrees that an
increase in the number of Assembly Members is needed.
3. Calls for
further cross-party work to take these matters forward.
A vote was taken on
amendment 2:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
27 |
0 |
24 |
51 |
Amendment 2 was agreed.
As
amendment 2 was agreed, amendment 3 was de-selected
A
vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM7118 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes the publication of A Parliament that Works for Wales and its
recommendations.
2.
Agrees that an increase in the number of Assembly Members is needed.
3.
Calls for further cross-party work to take these matters forward.
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
35 |
0 |
15 |
50 |
The motion as amended was agreed.