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NDM6738 Welsh Conservatives debate - Carers
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Meeting: 13/06/2018 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 6)
Welsh Conservatives Debate - Carers
NDM6738 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To propose that the
National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes that 11 -
17 June is Carers Week 2018.
2. Recognises the
vital contribution made to Welsh society by the roles undertaken by Wales’s
estimated 370,000 unpaid carers of all ages.
3. Calls on the
Welsh Government to implement the Welsh Conservative policy for a young carers
future grant, which would ensure young carers are supported to pursue further
and higher full time education and training opportunities.
4. Calls on the
Welsh Government to publish figures for how many carers' needs have been
assessed since the introduction of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales)
Act 2014 and how many of those assessed needs have been met.
5. Calls on the
Welsh Government to introduce a right to respite for both carers and those they
care for.
Social Services and
Well-being (Wales) Act 2014
The following amendments
have been tabled:
Amendment 1 - Julie
James (Swansea West)
Delete
all after point 2 and replace with:
Acknowledges
that the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 gives carers a right
to have their own needs as a carer assessed and for assessed and eligible needs
to be met by local authorities.
Welcomes
the Welsh Government’s national priorities for carers and the formation of a
Ministerial Advisory Group on Carers to ensure the implementation of the Social
Services and Well-being Act makes a real difference in the lives of carers in
Wales.
[If amendment 1 is agreed,
amendment 2 will be de-selected]
Amendment 2 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Delete
point 3 and replace with:
Believes
that if the administration of welfare was devolved, the anomalies within the
benefits system that remove support for carers who wish to pursue education and
training can be eradicated.
Amendment 3 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Insert
as new point after point 2 and renumber accordingly:
Notes
that the labour market for young people, with the proliferation of zero hour
contracts and unpaid internships as part of career pathways, creates barriers
for young carers who wish to pursue paid employment and careers alongside caring
responsibilities.
Amendment 4 - Caroline
Jones (South Wales West)
Insert
as new point 3 and renumber accordingly:
Recognises
that unpaid carers of all ages save the NHS and social services in Wales over
£8bn per year, yet a vast majority of carers feel their contribution is not
valued or understood.
Amendment 5 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add
as new point at end of motion:
Calls
on the Welsh Government to set milestones for the young carers advisory group
and provide regular updates to Assembly Members on their progress.
Amendment 6 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add
as new point at end of motion:
Calls
on the Welsh Government to ensure consistency across all parts of Wales in the roll-out
of a young carers’ card, which should include access to discounted transport.
Amendment 7 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add
as new point at end of motion:
Calls
on the Welsh Government to clarify how much of the proposed £3 million funding
for carers’ respite will be allocated to young carers.
Amendment 8 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add
as new point at end of motion:
Calls
on the Welsh Government to ensure all pharmacies are implementing the guidance
on allowing young carers to pick up prescription medication on behalf of those
they care for.
Amendment 9 - Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add
as new point at end of motion:
Calls
on the Welsh Government to ensure young carers receive appropriate training in
the administering of medication for those they care for.
Minutes:
The item started at
16.18
Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM6738 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes that 11 - 17 June is Carers Week 2018.
2.
Recognises the vital contribution made to Welsh society by the roles undertaken
by Wales’s estimated 370,000 unpaid carers of all ages.
3.
Calls on the Welsh Government to implement the Welsh Conservative policy for a
young carers future grant, which would ensure young carers are supported to
pursue further and higher full time education and training opportunities.
4.
Calls on the Welsh Government to publish figures for how many carers' needs
have been assessed since the introduction of the Social Services and Well-being
(Wales) Act 2014 and how many of those assessed needs have been met.
5.
Calls on the Welsh Government to introduce a right to respite for both carers
and those they care for.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
17 |
0 |
35 |
52 |
The
motion without amendment was not agreed.
The
following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1 - Julie James (Swansea West)
Delete all after
point 2 and replace with:
Acknowledges that
the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 gives carers a right to
have their own needs as a carer assessed and for assessed and eligible needs to
be met by local authorities.
Welcomes the Welsh
Government’s national priorities for carers and the formation of a Ministerial
Advisory Group on Carers to ensure the implementation of the Social Services
and Well-being Act makes a real difference in the lives of carers in Wales.
A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
0 |
25 |
52 |
Amendment
1 was agreed.
As
Amendment 1 was agreed, Amendment 2 was de-selected.
Amendment 3 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Insert as new point after point 2 and renumber accordingly:
Notes that the labour market for young people, with the proliferation of
zero hour contracts and unpaid internships as part of career pathways, creates
barriers for young carers who wish to pursue paid employment and careers
alongside caring responsibilities.
A vote was taken on
amendment 3:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
14 |
0 |
38 |
52 |
Amendment
3 was not agreed.
Amendment 4 - Caroline Jones (South Wales West)
Insert as new point 3 and renumber accordingly:
Recognises that unpaid carers of all ages save the NHS and social
services in Wales over £8bn per year, yet a vast majority of carers feel their
contribution is not valued or understood
A vote was taken on
amendment 4:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
48 |
0 |
4 |
52 |
Amendment
4 was agreed.
Amendment 5 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Calls on the Welsh Government to set milestones for the young carers
advisory group and provide regular updates to Assembly Members on their
progress.
A vote was taken on
amendment 5:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
25 |
0 |
27 |
52 |
Amendment
5 was not agreed.
Amendment 6 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure consistency across all parts of
Wales in the roll-out of a young carers’ card, which should include access to
discounted transport.
A vote was taken on
amendment 6:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
41 |
0 |
11 |
52 |
Amendment
6 was agreed.
Amendment 7 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Calls on the Welsh Government to clarify how much of the proposed £3
million funding for carers’ respite will be allocated to young carers.
A vote was taken on
amendment 7:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
25 |
0 |
27 |
52 |
Amendment
7 was not agreed.
Amendment 8 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure all pharmacies are implementing
the guidance on allowing young carers to pick up prescription medication on
behalf of those they care for.
A vote was taken on
amendment 8:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
52 |
0 |
0 |
52 |
Amendment
8 was agreed.
Amendment 9 - Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure young carers receive appropriate
training in the administering of medication for those they care for.
A vote was taken on
amendment 9:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
41 |
11 |
0 |
52 |
Amendment
9 was agreed.
A
vote was taken on the motion as amended:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes that 11 - 17 June is Carers Week 2018.
2.
Recognises the vital contribution made to Welsh society by the roles undertaken
by Wales’s estimated 370,000 unpaid carers of all ages.
3. Recognises that unpaid carers of all ages save the NHS and social services
in Wales over £8bn per year, yet a vast majority of carers feel their
contribution is not valued or understood
4. Acknowledges
that the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 gives carers a right
to have their own needs as a carer assessed and for assessed and eligible needs
to be met by local authorities.
5. Welcomes the
Welsh Government’s national priorities for carers and the formation of a
Ministerial Advisory Group on Carers to ensure the implementation of the Social
Services and Well-being Act makes a real difference in the lives of carers in
Wales.
6. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure consistency across all parts
of Wales in the roll-out of a young carers’ card, which should include access
to discounted transport.
7. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure all pharmacies are
implementing the guidance on allowing young carers to pick up prescription
medication on behalf of those they care for.
8. Calls on the Welsh Government to ensure young carers receive
appropriate training in the administering of medication for those they care
for.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
27 |
11 |
14 |
52 |
The
motion as amended was agreed.