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NDM6719 - Welsh Conservatives debate

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Meeting: 09/05/2018 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 6)

Welsh Conservatives debate – Land transaction tax on commercial land

NDM6719 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes that the new six per cent rate of land transaction tax (LTT) on commercial land transactions above £1 million is significantly higher than the equivalent rates for such transactions in England (five per cent) and Scotland (4.5 per cent).

2. Notes the Welsh Government’s completion on its circa £12 million purchase of the Cardiff bus station site on 29 March 2018, thus avoiding its own LTT regime by three days and ensuring the transaction took place under the UK Government’s stamp duty land tax.

3. Calls on the Welsh Government, in light of sector representation, to reconsider the new six per cent LTT rate on commercial land transactions above £1 million which will have a detrimental impact on economic development in Wales.

The following amendments have been tabled:

Amendment 1. Julie James (Swansea West)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Notes that:

a) The rates and bands for land transaction tax were approved by the National Assembly on 30 January 2018, with no Assembly Members voting against, and that the rates and bands came into effect on 1 April 2018.

b) The purchase of Cardiff bus station was not liable for any stamp duty land tax and would have been exempt from land transaction tax if the sale was completed under that regime.

Amendment 2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Welcomes the Assembly's new powers to vary tax rates according to Wales's economic, social and environmental needs.

Amendment 3. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Calls on the Welsh Government to expedite its work to review all property-related taxes.

Minutes:

The item started at 17.00

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM6719 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

1. Notes that the new six per cent rate of land transaction tax (LTT) on commercial land transactions above £1 million is significantly higher than the equivalent rates for such transactions in England (five per cent) and Scotland (4.5 per cent).

2. Notes the Welsh Government’s completion on its circa £12 million purchase of the Cardiff bus station site on 29 March 2018, thus avoiding its own LTT regime by three days and ensuring the transaction took place under the UK Government’s stamp duty land tax.

3. Calls on the Welsh Government, in light of sector representation, to reconsider the new six per cent LTT rate on commercial land transactions above £1 million which will have a detrimental impact on economic development in Wales.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

14

2

33

49

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1. Julie James (Swansea West)

Delete all and replace with:

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Notes that:

a) The rates and bands for land transaction tax were approved by the National Assembly on 30 January 2018, with no Assembly Members voting against, and that the rates and bands came into effect on 1 April 2018.

b) The purchase of Cardiff bus station was not liable for any stamp duty land tax and would have been exempt from land transaction tax if the sale was completed under that regime.

A vote was taken on amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

25

12

12

49

Amendment 1 was agreed.

Amendment 2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Welcomes the Assembly's new powers to vary tax rates according to Wales's economic, social and environmental needs.

A vote was taken on amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

49

0

0

49

Amendment 2 was agreed.

Amendment 3. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)

Add as new point at end of motion:

Calls on the Welsh Government to expedite its work to review all property-related taxes.

A vote was taken on amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

49

0

0

49

Amendment 3 was agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM6719 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

Notes that:

a) The rates and bands for land transaction tax were approved by the National Assembly on 30 January 2018, with no Assembly Members voting against, and that the rates and bands came into effect on 1 April 2018.

b) The purchase of Cardiff bus station was not liable for any stamp duty land tax and would have been exempt from land transaction tax if the sale was completed under that regime.

Welcomes the Assembly's new powers to vary tax rates according to Wales's economic, social and environmental needs.

Calls on the Welsh Government to expedite its work to review all property-related taxes.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

37

0

12

49

The motion as amended was agreed.