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NDM6707 - Welsh Conservatives debate
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Meeting: 25/04/2018 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 7)
Welsh Conservatives debate – Local government reform
NDM6707 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes that the Welsh Government Green Paper – Strengthening Local Government:
Delivering for People – is the third proposal in three years put forward by the
Welsh Government on local government reform.
2.
Further notes that local authorities were working towards regional arrangements
put forward under the Cabinet Secretary Local Government and Public Service’s
predecessor.
3.
Regrets that the latest proposal has caused sustained periods of uncertainty
for councils and their frontline staff.
4.
Is concerned by the continual top-down nature of Welsh local government reform,
as shown by the lack of meaningful engagement with council leaders and Chief
Executives in the preparation of this paper, as well as the absence of
strategic cost and benefit analysis taken on all previous local government
reform proposals.
The following amendments
have been tabled:
Amendment 1. Julie
James (Swansea West)
Delete
all and replace with:
1.
Notes the Welsh Government’s Green Paper - Strengthening Local Government:
Delivering for People - which is currently out for consultation.
2.
Notes the current configuration of 22 local authorities in Wales is not
sustainable.
[If amendment 1 is agreed,
amendments 2 and 3 will be de-selected]
Amendment 2. Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add
as new point after point 2 and renumber accordingly:
Regrets
the austerity that has led to major cuts to local government budgets for many
years, and the continuous uncertainty that councils face in terms of their
financial situation and possible re-organisation.
Amendment 3. Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add
as new point after point 3 and renumber accordingly:
Regrets
the Cabinet Secretary's lack of acknowledgement of the importance of working
constructively and maintaining the relationship between the Welsh Government
and local authorities.
Amendment. 4 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add
as new point at end of motion:
Believes
that any proposals for local government reorganisation should aim to strengthen
local democracy, integrate health and care, strengthen the Welsh language and
offer more effective services to its users.
Minutes:
The
item started at 17.11
Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM6707
Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes that the Welsh Government Green Paper – Strengthening Local Government:
Delivering for People – is the third proposal in three years put forward by the
Welsh Government on local government reform.
2.
Further notes that local authorities were working towards regional arrangements
put forward under the Cabinet Secretary Local Government and Public Service’s
predecessor.
3.
Regrets that the latest proposal has caused sustained periods of uncertainty
for councils and their frontline staff.
4.
Is concerned by the continual top-down nature of Welsh local government reform,
as shown by the lack of meaningful engagement with council leaders and Chief
Executives in the preparation of this paper, as well as the absence of
strategic cost and benefit analysis taken on all previous local government
reform proposals.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
18 |
0 |
37 |
55 |
The
motion without amendment was not agreed.
The
following amendments were tabled:
Amendment
1. Julie James (Swansea
West)
Delete
all and replace with:
1.
Notes the Welsh Government’s Green Paper - Strengthening Local Government:
Delivering for People - which is currently out for consultation.
2.
Notes the current configuration of 22 local authorities in Wales is not
sustainable.
[If
amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be de-selected]
A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
34 |
0 |
21 |
55 |
Amendment
1 was agreed.
As amendment 1 was agreed, amendments 2 and 3 were de-selected.
Amendment.
4 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Believes that any proposals for local government
reorganisation should aim to strengthen local democracy, integrate health and
care, strengthen the Welsh language and offer more effective services to its
users.
A
vote was taken on amendment 4:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
46 |
5 |
4 |
55 |
Amendment
4 was agreed.
A
vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM6707
Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes the Welsh Government’s Green Paper - Strengthening Local Government:
Delivering for People - which is currently out for consultation.
2.
Notes the current configuration of 22 local authorities in Wales is not
sustainable.
3.
Believes that any proposals for local
government reorganisation should aim to strengthen local democracy, integrate
health and care, strengthen the Welsh language and offer more effective
services to its users.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
34 |
8 |
13 |
55 |
The
motion as amended was agreed.