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NDM6505 - Welsh Conservatives debate
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Meeting: 20/09/2017 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 6)
Welsh Conservatives debate
NDM6505 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes the Welsh Government’s White Paper – Services
Fit for the Future – which seeks to abolish Community Health Councils in Wales.
2. Recognises the important role Community Health
Councils have played in delivering independent public service accountability
and providing a strong voice for patients in Wales.
3. Believes that the White Paper proposals will weaken
the voice of patients and communities and reduce scrutiny of the Welsh
Government and Health Boards.
4. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) extend the consultation period on the White Paper,
following its failure to properly engage with Community Health Councils,
patients and the Welsh public; and
b) work more constructively with Community Health
Councils on future proposals for a new people’s voice body.
Welsh
Government White Paper Consultation Document - 'Services Fit for the Future'
The following amendments have been tabled:
Amendment 1. Jane
Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete all after 'Services Fit for the Future' and
add, 'which sets out a range of proposals to strengthen quality and governance
in health and care services in Wales'.
Amendment 2. Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Notes that a single national community health council
in Scotland was regarded as not sufficiently independent of government by the
Scottish Parliament's Health and Sport Committee.
Minutes:
The item started at
16.44
Voting on the motion and amendments under
this item was deferred until voting time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM6505 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes the Welsh Government’s White Paper – Services Fit for the Future – which
seeks to abolish Community Health Councils in Wales.
2.
Recognises the important role Community Health Councils have played in
delivering independent public service accountability and providing a strong
voice for patients in Wales.
3.
Believes that the White Paper proposals will weaken the voice of patients and
communities and reduce scrutiny of the Welsh Government and Health Boards.
4.
Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a)
extend the consultation period on the White Paper, following its failure to
properly engage with Community Health Councils, patients and the Welsh public;
and
b)
work more constructively with Community Health Councils on future proposals for
a new people’s voice body.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
16 |
0 |
37 |
53 |
The
motion without amendment was not agreed.
The following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1. Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete all after
'Services Fit for the Future' and add, 'which sets out a range of proposals to
strengthen quality and governance in health and care services in Wales'.
A vote was taken on
amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
28 |
0 |
25 |
53 |
Amendment
1 was agreed.
Amendment 2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Add as new point at
end of motion:
Notes that a single
national community health council in Scotland was regarded as not sufficiently
independent of government by the Scottish Parliament's Health and Sport
Committee.
A vote was taken on
amendment 2:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
53 |
0 |
0 |
53 |
Amendment
2 was agreed.
A vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM6505 Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
- Notes
the Welsh Government’s White Paper – Services Fit for the Future –which sets out a range of proposals to
strengthen quality and governance in health and care services in Wales.
- Notes that a
single national community health council in Scotland was regarded as not
sufficiently independent of government by the Scottish Parliament's Health
and Sport Committee.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
28 |
0 |
25 |
53 |
The
motion as amended was agreed.