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NDM6335 - United Kingdom Independence Party debate
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Meeting: 21/06/2017 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 9)
United Kingdom Independence Party debate
NDM6335
Neil
Hamilton (Mid and West Wales)
David
Rowlands (South Wales East)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes the Bank of England working paper, The Impact of Immigration on
Occupational Wages, and its conclusion that a 10 per cent increase in the
proportion of migrants working in semi and unskilled jobs leads, on average, to
a 2 per cent cut in wages in those jobs in a particular region.
2.
Believes that:
a)
a controlled and fair immigration system, placing emphasis on skilled
migration, would have significant benefits for the UK economy;
b)
public institutions, such as the National Health Service currently depend upon
skilled migration from both outside and inside the European Union;
c)
uncontrolled, and largely unskilled, immigration from the European Union member
states at the current levels is unsustainable;
d)
current UK immigration policy gives migrants discrimination in favour of EU
nationals to the disadvantage of those from other parts of the world.
3.
Calls on the UK Government to introduce a firm but fair system of immigration
control which:
a)
does not discriminate against non-EU citizens;
b)
does not replicate in substance, or in fact, the existing EU or EEA regime for
free movement of workers; and
c)
seeks to balance immigration and emigration over a five year period.
'The
Impact of Immigration on Occupational Wages: evidence from Britain'
The following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Delete
all and replace with:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Believes that Britain and Wales has an open economy and a welcoming society,
with immigration playing a significant part in sustaining and developing a
modern economy in the 21st century.
2.
Recognises the UK Government's commitment to ensure that our public services,
businesses and world-class universities can continue to recruit the brightest
and best from around the world.
3.
Welcomes the UK Government's intention to develop accountability and control
within the country's immigration system.
[If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be
de-selected]
Amendment 2. Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
Delete
all and replace with:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes that analysis conducted by the London School of Economics' Centre for
Economic Performance concluded that there is very little evidence to suggest
that neither immigration as a whole nor EU immigration has had significantly
large negative effects on employment, wages and wage inequality for the UK-born
population.
2.
Believes that the rights and privileges afforded to UK and EU citizens
currently living and working in other EU member states should be protected.
3.
Believes that a creation of a Welsh Migration Advisory Service that could issue
Welsh specific visas is necessary to plug skills gaps in the Welsh economy.
4.
Calls upon the UK Government to guarantee the rights of all EU citizens
currently living and working in the UK following Brexit.
5.
Calls upon the Welsh Government to publish a consultation on how a Welsh work
permit system could benefit the Welsh economy.
'London School of Economics'
Centre for Economic Performance'
[If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will be
de-selected]
Amendment 3. Jane
Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete
all and replace with:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Reaffirms support for the joint Welsh Government/Plaid Cymru White Paper
Securing Wales' Future which balances jobs and the economy with the need to
address concerns about the impact of migration on vulnerable communities.
2.
Supports the approach set out in Securing Wales' Future:
a)
to link the right of EU/EEA nationals to move to the UK after Brexit, to
employment; and
b)
to increase efforts to prevent the exploitation of workers, particularly those
on low pay.
Minutes:
The
item started at 17.24
Voting on the motion and amendments under
this item was deferred until voting time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM6335
Neil Hamilton (Mid and
West Wales)
David Rowlands (South
Wales East)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes the Bank of England working paper, The Impact
of Immigration on Occupational Wages, and its conclusion that a 10 per cent
increase in the proportion of migrants working in semi and unskilled jobs
leads, on average, to a 2 per cent cut in wages in those jobs in a particular
region.
2. Believes that:
a) a controlled and fair immigration system, placing
emphasis on skilled migration, would have significant benefits for the UK
economy;
b) public institutions, such as the National Health
Service currently depend upon skilled migration from both outside and inside
the European Union;
c) uncontrolled, and largely unskilled, immigration
from the European Union member states at the current levels is unsustainable;
d) current UK immigration policy gives migrants
discrimination in favour of EU nationals to the disadvantage of those from
other parts of the world.
3. Calls on the UK Government to introduce a firm
but fair system of immigration control which:
a) does not discriminate against non-EU citizens;
b) does not replicate in substance, or in fact, the
existing EU or EEA regime for free movement of workers; and
c) seeks to balance immigration and emigration over
a five year period.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
5 |
0 |
45 |
50 |
The
motion without amendment was not agreed.
The following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1 Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire)
Delete
all and replace with:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Believes that Britain and Wales has an open economy and a welcoming society,
with immigration playing a significant part in sustaining and developing a
modern economy in the 21st century.
2.
Recognises the UK Government's commitment to ensure that our public services,
businesses and world-class universities can continue to recruit the brightest
and best from around the world.
3.
Welcomes the UK Government's intention to develop accountability and control
within the country's immigration system.
A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
12 |
0 |
38 |
50 |
Amendment
1 was not agreed.
Amendment 2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn)
Delete
all and replace with:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes that analysis conducted by the London School of Economics' Centre for
Economic Performance concluded that there is very little evidence to suggest
that neither immigration as a whole nor EU immigration has had significantly
large negative effects on employment, wages and wage inequality for the UK-born
population.
2.
Believes that the rights and privileges afforded to UK and EU citizens
currently living and working in other EU member states should be protected.
3.
Believes that a creation of a Welsh Migration Advisory Service that could issue
Welsh specific visas is necessary to plug skills gaps in the Welsh economy.
4.
Calls upon the UK Government to guarantee the rights of all EU citizens
currently living and working in the UK following Brexit.
5.
Calls upon the Welsh Government to publish a consultation on how a Welsh work
permit system could benefit the Welsh economy.
A
vote was taken on amendment 2:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
8 |
0 |
42 |
50 |
Amendment
2 was not agreed.
Amendment 3. Jane Hutt (Vale of
Glamorgan
Delete
all and replace with:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Reaffirms support for the joint Welsh Government/Plaid Cymru White Paper
Securing Wales' Future which balances jobs and the economy with the need to
address concerns about the impact of migration on vulnerable communities.
2.
Supports the approach set out in Securing Wales' Future:
a)
to link the right of EU/EEA nationals to move to the UK after Brexit, to
employment; and
b)
to increase efforts to prevent the exploitation of workers, particularly those
on low pay.
A
vote was taken on amendment 3:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
34 |
0 |
16 |
50 |
Amendment
3 was agreed.
A vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM6335
Neil Hamilton (Mid and
West Wales)
David Rowlands (South
Wales East)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Reaffirms support for the joint Welsh Government/Plaid Cymru White Paper
Securing Wales' Future which balances jobs and the economy with the need to
address concerns about the impact of migration on vulnerable communities.
2.
Supports the approach set out in Securing Wales' Future:
a)
to link the right of EU/EEA nationals to move to the UK after Brexit, to
employment; and
b)
to increase efforts to prevent the exploitation of workers, particularly those
on low pay.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
34 |
0 |
16 |
50 |
The
motion as amended was agreed.