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NDM6171 - Plaid Cymru debate
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Meeting: 23/11/2016 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 8)
Plaid Cymru debate
NDM6171
Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Regrets the gap between the highest and the lowest paid workers in Welsh local authorities
and the wider public sector.
2.
Notes Plaid Cymru's success in forcing the Welsh Government to amend the Local
Democracy Act during the fourth Assembly to include measures that have improved
transparency in how senior officers pay is decided through the establishment of
independent remuneration panels.
3.
Calls on the Welsh Government to:
(a)
legislate to introduce nationally set pay scales and terms and conditions to
control senior and chief officer pay through a national framework which would
ensure fair pay for all public sector workers in Wales; and
(b)
define the role of local authorities chief executives in legislation which
would include abolishing additional payments to council officials for returning
officer duties.
'Local Government
(Democracy) (Wales) Act 2013'
The
following amendments have been tabled:
Amendment 1. Jane
Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete point 2 and replace with:
Notes
the requirement of the Local Democracy Act, which includes measures that have
improved transparency in how senior officers' pay is decided through the
broadening of the powers of the Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales.
[If
amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be de-selected]
Amendment 2. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Delete
point 2, and replace with:
Recognises
Welsh Conservative proposals, which called on the Welsh Government to place a
binding limit on senior office holder salaries to ensure that local authorities
enforce effective caps on pay.
Amendment 3. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Delete Point 3 and replace with:
Calls
on the Welsh Government to consider legislation introduced in other
Commonwealth jurisdictions, which has enshrined the responsibilities of local
government chief executives in law, such as Section 94 A of the Australian
Local Government Act 1989.
'Australian
Local Government Act 1989'
[If
amendment 3 is agreed, amendment 4 will be de-selected]
Amendment 4. Jane
Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
In point 3, delete sub-point (a) and replace with:
work
with social partners to develop a national framework which would ensure fair
pay for devolved public sector workers in Wales; and
Amendment 5. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Add as a new point at the end of the motion:
Notes
the evidence heard by the Public Accounts Committee, which saw stakeholders
call for a correlation between senior management pay and organisational
performance, as a key indicator in providing value for money.
'Public
Accounts Committee transcript: 13 May 2014'
Amendment
6. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Further
notes the Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers'
submission to the UK Government's Communities and Local Government Select
Committee Inquiry into Local Government Chief Officer Remuneration in January
2014, which acknowledged that since 2010, a number of local authorities have
started to share chief executives and senior management teams, to further drive
cost saving measures.
'Local
Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers' submission to the UK
Government's Communities and Local Government Select Committee Inquiry into
Local Government Chief Officer Remuneration'
Minutes:
The item started at
16.53
Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM6171 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Regrets the gap between the highest and the lowest paid workers in
Welsh local authorities and the wider public sector.
2. Notes Plaid Cymru's success in forcing the Welsh Government to amend
the Local Democracy Act during the fourth Assembly to include measures that
have improved transparency in how senior officers pay is decided through the
establishment of independent remuneration panels.
3. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
(a) legislate to introduce nationally set pay scales and terms and
conditions to control senior and chief officer pay through a national framework
which would ensure fair pay for all public sector workers in Wales; and
(b) define the role of local authorities chief executives in legislation
which would include abolishing additional payments to council officials for
returning officer duties.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
7 |
4 |
34 |
45 |
The motion without amendment was not agreed.
The
following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1. Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete point 2 and
replace with:
Notes the
requirement of the Local Democracy Act, which includes measures that have
improved transparency in how senior officers' pay is decided through the
broadening of the powers of the Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales.
A vote was taken on
Amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
28 |
0 |
17 |
45 |
Amendment 1 was agreed.
As Amendment 1 was agreed, Amendment 2 was de-selected.
Amendment 3. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Delete Point 3 and replace with:
Calls on the Welsh Government to consider
legislation introduced in other Commonwealth jurisdictions, which has enshrined
the responsibilities of local government chief executives in law, such as
Section 94 A of the Australian Local Government Act 1989.
A vote was taken on
Amendment 3:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
14 |
0 |
31 |
45 |
Amendment 3 was not agreed.
Amendment 4. Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
In point 3, delete sub-point (a) and replace
with:
work with social partners to develop a
national framework which would ensure fair pay for devolved public sector
workers in Wales; and
A vote was taken on
Amendment 4:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
24 |
4 |
17 |
45 |
Amendment 4 was agreed.
Amendment 5. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Add as a new point at the end of the motion:
Notes the evidence heard by the Public
Accounts Committee, which saw stakeholders call for a correlation between
senior management pay and organisational performance, as a key indicator in
providing value for money.
A vote was taken on
Amendment 5:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
45 |
0 |
0 |
45 |
Amendment 5 was agreed.
Amendment 6. Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Add as new point at end of motion:
Further notes the Society of Local Authority
Chief Executives and Senior Managers' submission to the UK Government's
Communities and Local Government Select Committee Inquiry into Local Government
Chief Officer Remuneration in January 2014, which acknowledged that since 2010,
a number of local authorities have started to share chief executives and senior
management teams, to further drive cost saving measures.
A vote was taken on
Amendment 6:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
38 |
0 |
7 |
45 |
Amendment 6 was agreed.
A
vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM6171 Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Regrets the gap between the highest and the lowest paid workers in
Welsh local authorities and the wider public sector.
2. Notes the requirement of the Local Democracy Act, which includes
measures that have improved transparency in how senior officers' pay is decided
through the broadening of the powers of the Independent Remuneration Panel for
Wales.
3. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
(a) work with social partners to develop a
national framework which would ensure fair pay for devolved public sector
workers in Wales; and
(b) define the role of local authorities chief executives in legislation
which would include abolishing additional payments to council officials for
returning officer duties.
4. Notes the evidence heard by the Public
Accounts Committee, which saw stakeholders call for a correlation between
senior management pay and organisational performance, as a key indicator in
providing value for money.
5. Further notes the Society of Local
Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers' submission to the UK
Government's Communities and Local Government Select Committee Inquiry into
Local Government Chief Officer Remuneration in January 2014, which acknowledged
that since 2010, a number of local authorities have started to share chief
executives and senior management teams, to further drive cost saving measures.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
38 |
0 |
7 |
45 |
The motion as amended was agreed.