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Meeting: 16/11/2016 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 6)
Welsh Conservatives debate
NDM6140
Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To propose that
the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Recognises
the important and valuable contribution made to Welsh society by older people.
2. Believes
that older people deserve dignity and respect, as well as independence and the
freedom to make decisions about their own lives.
3. Regrets the
Welsh Government's failure to provide security for older people by setting a
cap on costs and protecting £100,000 of assets for those in residential care
ensuring people do not lose their life savings and homes to care costs.
4. Notes the
findings from a dementia report produced by the Older People's Commissioner for
Wales that highlighted the difficulties those with dementia have in accessing
the information, support, and services that can make a big difference to their
lives.
5. Calls on the
Welsh Government to:
a) Introduce an
Older People's Rights Bill, to extend and promote the rights of older people;
b) Place a duty
on public sector bodies to consult older people when making decisions which
affect their lives; and
c) Make Wales
the first dementia-friendly nation in the UK.
The
following amendments have been tabled:
Amendment 1. Jane Hutt (Vale of
Glamorgan)
Delete
point 3 and replace with:
Notes
the Welsh Government's commitment to increase the capital limit to £50,000,
which will enable more people in Wales to keep more of their assets when
entering residential care.
Amendment 2.
Jane Hutt (Vale of
Glamorgan)
Add
as new point after point 3 and renumber accordingly:
Regrets
the ongoing delays by the UK Government to the reform of the arrangements for
paying for care.
Amendment 3.
Jane Hutt (Vale of
Glamorgan)
Delete
point 5 and replace with:
Notes
that:
a)
the Older People’s Commissioner for Wales has suggested an Older People’s
Rights Bill for Wales;
b)
the Welsh Government supports the principles of a Bill;
c)
the Welsh Government will take further action to make Wales a dementia friendly
country through developing and implementing a new national dementia plan.
[If amendment 3 is agreed, amendments 4, 5, 6
and 7 will be de-selected]
Amendment 4.
Rhun ap Iorwerth
(Ynys Môn)
Delete
sub-point 5a), and replace with:
‘supports
the work of the Older People’s Commissioner for Wales in working towards
extending and promoting the rights of older people;’
Amendment 5. Rhun ap Iorwerth
(Ynys Môn)
Delete
sub-point 5b) and replace with:
‘supports
the Older People’s Commissioner for Wales in ensuring the voices of older
people are heard in relation to the planning of public services;’
Amendment 6.
Rhun ap Iorwerth
(Ynys Môn)
Add
as new sub-point at end of point 5:
‘build
more supported housing to broaden choice and compliment residential and
institutional care.’
Amendment 7.
Rhun ap Iorwerth
(Ynys Môn)
Add
as new sub-point at end of point 5:
‘work
with police and crime commissioners and local authorities to protect older
people from scams, mis-selling and other forms of financial exploitation.’
Minutes:
The item started at
15.30
Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM6140 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Recognises the important and valuable contribution made to Welsh
society by older people.
2. Believes that older people deserve dignity and respect, as well as
independence and the freedom to make decisions about their own lives.
3. Regrets the Welsh Government's failure to provide security for older
people by setting a cap on costs and protecting £100,000 of assets for those in
residential care ensuring people do not lose their life savings and homes to
care costs.
4. Notes the findings from a dementia report produced by the Older
People's Commissioner for Wales that highlighted the difficulties those with
dementia have in accessing the information, support, and services that can make
a big difference to their lives.
5. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) Introduce an Older People's Rights Bill, to extend and promote the
rights of older people;
b) Place a duty on public sector bodies to consult older people when
making decisions which affect their lives; and
c) Make Wales the first dementia-friendly nation in the UK.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
16 |
0 |
30 |
46 |
The motion without amendment was not agreed.
The
following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1. Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete point 3 and
replace with:
Notes the Welsh
Government's commitment to increase the capital limit to £50,000, which will
enable more people in Wales to keep more of their assets when entering
residential care.
A vote was taken on
Amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
25 |
0 |
21 |
46 |
Amendment 1 was agreed.
Amendment 2. Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Add as new point
after point 3 and renumber accordingly:
Regrets the ongoing
delays by the UK Government to the reform of the arrangements for paying for
care.
A vote was taken on
Amendment 2:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
25 |
4 |
17 |
46 |
Amendment 2 was agreed.
Amendment 3. Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete point 5 and replace with:
Notes that:
a) the Older People’s Commissioner for Wales
has suggested an Older People’s Rights Bill for Wales;
b) the Welsh Government supports the
principles of a Bill;
c) the Welsh Government will take further
action to make Wales a dementia friendly country through developing and
implementing a new national dementia plan.
A vote was taken on
Amendment 3:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
25 |
0 |
21 |
46 |
Amendment 3 was agreed.
As Amendment 3 was agreed, Amendments 4, 5, 6 and 7
were de-selected
A
vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM6140 Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Recognises the important and valuable contribution made to Welsh
society by older people.
2. Believes that older people deserve dignity and respect, as well as independence
and the freedom to make decisions about their own lives.
3. Notes the Welsh Government's commitment to increase the capital limit to
£50,000, which will enable more people in Wales to keep more of their assets
when entering residential care.
4. Regrets the
ongoing delays by the UK Government to the reform of the arrangements for
paying for care.
5. Notes the findings from a dementia report produced by the Older
People's Commissioner for Wales that highlighted the difficulties those with dementia
have in accessing the information, support, and services that can make a big
difference to their lives.
6. Notes that:
a) the Older People’s Commissioner for Wales
has suggested an Older People’s Rights Bill for Wales;
b) the Welsh Government supports the
principles of a Bill;
c) the Welsh Government will take further
action to make Wales a dementia friendly country through developing and
implementing a new national dementia plan.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
32 |
4 |
10 |
46 |
The
motion as amended was agreed.