Decision details

Welsh Conservatives Debate

Decision Maker: Plenary - Fourth Assembly

Status: Recommendations approved

Is Key decision?: Yes

Purpose:

Debates are one of the most frequent items of business on the Plenary agenda. Many types of debate are brought forward in Plenary, including:

  • Opposition party debates on a topic of their choice;

Other than in the case of Government debates, the time allocated for all other types of debates and their frequency are determined by the Business Committee

Decision:

The item started at 15.29

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

NDM5172 William Graham (South Wales East)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Notes the negative impact that poor ambulance response times can have on the health and wellbeing of patients;

 

2. Notes that 11 ambulance stations have closed in Wales since 2008/09;

 

3. Expresses concern that too many Welsh patients are waiting in excess of target times for an ambulance response;

 

4. Regrets that the Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust has reduced the total number of emergency ambulances operating in Wales in recent years;

 

5. Regrets that the uncertainty surrounding the future shape of ambulance services has the potential to undermine the on-going process of NHS reorganisation in Wales.

 

6. Calls upon the Welsh Government to:

 

a) increase the number of emergency ambulances operating in Wales;

 

b) ensure that Wales has an adequate network of ambulance stations across the country; and

 

c) provide an assurance that the on-going Ministerial review of the Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust will deliver improved response times.

For

Abstain

Against

Total

13

0

36

49

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)

 

Insert at the end of point 3:

 

‘and that some patients not classed as a category A emergency are subsequently waiting several hours in pain for an ambulance to become available’

A vote was taken on Amendment 1:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

24

0

25

49

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

Amendment 2 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)

 

In point 6c) delete ‘deliver improved response times’ and replace with:

 

‘:

 

i) deliver measurable improved patient outcomes; and

 

ii) examine the appropriateness of the current stand-alone model’

A vote was taken on Amendment 2:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

36

0

13

49

Amendment 2 was agreed.

Amendment 3 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)

 

Add as new sub point at end of point 6:

 

‘invest in the up skilling and training of existing ambulance service staff to paramedic level.’

A vote was taken on Amendment 3:

For

Abstain

Against

Total

11

0

38

49

Amendment 3 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

NDM5172 William Graham (South Wales East)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Notes the negative impact that poor ambulance response times can have on the health and wellbeing of patients;

 

2. Notes that 11 ambulance stations have closed in Wales since 2008/09;

 

3. Expresses concern that too many Welsh patients are waiting in excess of target times for an ambulance response;

 

4. Regrets that the Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust has reduced the total number of emergency ambulances operating in Wales in recent years;

 

5. Regrets that the uncertainty surrounding the future shape of ambulance services has the potential to undermine the on-going process of NHS reorganisation in Wales.

 

6. Calls upon the Welsh Government to:

 

a) increase the number of emergency ambulances operating in Wales;

 

b) ensure that Wales has an adequate network of ambulance stations across the country; and

 

c) provide an assurance that the on-going Ministerial review of the Welsh Ambulance Service NHS Trust will:


 i) deliver measurable improved patient outcomes; and

 

ii) examine the appropriateness of the current stand-alone model

For

Abstain

Against

Total

24

0

25

49

The motion as amended was not agreed.

Publication date: 27/02/2013

Date of decision: 27/02/2013

Decided at meeting: 27/02/2013 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly