Decision details

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• Opposition party debates on a topic of their choice;

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The item started at: 16.20

 

Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.

 

A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:

 

NDM5106 William Graham (South Wales East)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Notes that:

 

a) the number of disabled people using Direct Payments to organise their social care in Wales is low compared to other nations of the UK;

 

b) there is currently a lack of support and information available to service users over the range of options available to them; and

 

c) there is not enough choice and control of Direct Payments in social services in Wales.

 

2. Calls for the Welsh Government to:

 

a) use the Social Services and Wellbeing Bill to reflect the Scottish model of self-directed support, to ensure that social care users can control their care and support packages through direct payments and third-party managed accounts;

 

b) work to establish a voluntary national register of personal assistants to ensure they have the appropriate support and training to equip them with the skills to deal with a range of conditions; and

 

c) encourage personal assistants to provide a network of support for service users in the event of unforeseen circumstances.

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
12	0	37	49

The motion without amendment was not agreed.

The following amendments were tabled:

Amendment 1 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)

 

Insert as new point after point 1 and renumber accordingly:

 

“Recognises that Direct Payments are not appropriate for all disabled people.”

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 1:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
41	0	0	41

Amendment 1 was agreed.

Amendment 2 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)

 

Insert as new point after point 1 and renumber accordingly:

 

“Recognises that more use of Direct Payments would not compensate disabled people for the loss of disability living allowance.”

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 2:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
32	5	12	49

Amendment 2 was agreed.

 

Amendment 3 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)

 

Insert as new sub-point 2a) and renumber accordingly:

 

“maintain directly funded social care alongside Direct Payments;”

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 3:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
49	0	0	49

Amendment 3 was agreed.

 

Amendment 4 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

 

In point 2a delete ‘to reflect the Scottish model of self-directed support,’

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 4:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
25	0	24	49

Amendment 4 was agreed.

 

Amendment 5 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

 

In point 2b delete ‘establish a voluntary national register of personal assistants to ensure they’ and replace with ‘ensure personal assistants’

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 5:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
32	0	17	49

Amendment 5 was agreed.

 

Amendment 6 - Aled Roberts (North Wales)

 

Add new sub-point at the end of point 2:

 

recognise that Direct Payments are not suitable for everyone and to maintain suitable provision for those who will continue to need social care provided on their behalf.

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 6:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
49	0	0	49

Amendment 6 was agreed.

 

Amendment 7 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)

 

Add as new sub-point at end of point 2:

 

“ensure disabled people are provided with information and advice concerning their entitlements, and that advisory services are equipped to assist disabled people in navigating the unfair and flawed system of work capability assessments.”

 

A vote was taken on Amendment 7:

For	Abstain	Against	Total
49	0	0	49

Amendment 7 was agreed.

 

A vote was taken on the motion as amended:

 

NDM5106 William Graham (South Wales East)

 

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:

 

1. Notes that:

 

a) the number of disabled people using Direct Payments to organise their social care in Wales is low compared to other nations of the UK;

 

b) there is currently a lack of support and information available to service users over the range of options available to them; and

 

c) there is not enough choice and control of Direct Payments in social services in Wales.

 

2. Recognises that Direct Payments are not appropriate for all disabled people.

 

3. Recognises that more use of Direct Payments would not compensate disabled people for the loss of disability living allowance.

 

4. Calls for the Welsh Government to:

 

a) maintain directly funded social care alongside Direct Payments;

 

b) use the Social Services and Wellbeing Bill, to ensure that social care users can control their care and support packages through direct payments and third-party managed accounts;

 

c) work to ensure personal assistants have the appropriate support and training to equip them with the skills to deal with a range of conditions;

 

d) encourage personal assistants to provide a network of support for service users in the event of unforeseen circumstances;

 

e) recognise that Direct Payments are not suitable for everyone and to maintain suitable provision for those who will continue to need social care provided on their behalf; and

 

f) ensure disabled people are provided with information and advice concerning their entitlements, and that advisory services are equipped to assist disabled people in navigating the unfair and flawed system of work capability assessments.

 

For	Abstain	Against	Total
37	0	12	49

The motion as amended was agreed.