Decision details
Welsh Liberal Democrats Debate
Decision Maker: Plenary - Fourth Assembly
Status: Recommendations approved
Is Key decision?: Yes
Purpose:
Debates are one of the
most frequent items of business on the Plenary
agenda. Many types of debate are brought forward in Plenary, including:
- Opposition party debates on a topic of their choice;
Other than in the case of Government debates, the time allocated for all other types of debates and their frequency are determined by the Business Committee
Decision:
The item started at 17:17
Voting on the motion
was deferred until Voting Time.
A vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM5085 Aled Roberts
(North Wales)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes that:
a) the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee has not agreed a budget with the Wales Ambulance Service for the 2012/13 financial year, as of 31/10/2012;
b) the Welsh Ambulance Service is unable to prepare proper service plans due to a lack of financial clarity; and
c) for the last four successive months the Welsh Ambulance Service has failed to meet its all-Wales target of 65% of Category A (immediately life-threatening) calls receiving an ambulance response time within 8 minutes.
2. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) ensure that the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee agrees a budget with the Welsh Ambulance Service Trust for the 2012/13 year as a matter of urgency;
b) outline the role of the Wales Ambulance Service Trust with regard to service reconfiguration and the impact that reconfiguration could have on their budget and performance;
c) urgently assess the support available to the Wales Ambulance Service so they can meet their agreed 65% response time targets; and
d) urgently review arrangements whereby the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee, a committee comprising representatives of all the Local Health Boards, has to agree the budget for another trust.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
10 |
0 |
31 |
41 |
The motion without
amendment was not agreed.
The following
amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1 - Jane
Hutt (Vale of Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete point 1.
A vote was taken on amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
21 |
0 |
20 |
41 |
Amendment 1 was
agreed.
Amendment 2 - Aled
Roberts (North Wales)
In point 1a delete ‘has’ and replace with ‘had’
A vote was taken on amendment 2:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
19 |
0 |
21 |
40 |
Amendment 2 was not
agreed.
Amendment 3 - Aled
Roberts (North Wales)
In point 1b delete ‘is’ and replace with ‘was’
A vote was taken on amendment 3:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
20 |
0 |
21 |
41 |
Amendment 3 was not
agreed.
Amendment 4 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Vale of
Glamorgan)
Delete sub-point
2a.
A vote was taken on amendment 4:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
41 |
0 |
0 |
41 |
Amendment 4 was
agreed.
As amendment 4 was
moved, amendment 5 was de-selected.
Amendment 6 - Jocelyn Davies (South Wales East)
Delete
sub-point 2d and replace with:
Calls on the
Minister to take responsibility for setting the Welsh Ambulance Service’s
budget.
A vote was taken on amendment 6:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
20 |
0 |
21 |
41 |
Amendment 6 was not
agreed.
Amendment 7 - Jane Hutt (Vale of Vale of Glamorgan)
Delete
sub-point 2d. and replace with: ‘continue to assess arrangements between the
Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee, Local
Health Boards and WAST, to ensure robust governance and funding arrangements
remain in place.’
A vote was taken on amendment 7:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
21 |
0 |
19 |
40 |
Amendment 7 was
agreed.
Amendment 8 - William
Graham (South Wales East)
Add at the end of motion:
Notes the critical role played by the Wales Air Ambulance Service in assisting the Wales Ambulance Service to respond to emergencies in Wales.
A vote was taken on amendment 8:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
41 |
0 |
0 |
41 |
Amendment 8 was
agreed.
Amendment 9 - William
Graham (South Wales East)
Add at the end of motion:
Calls on the Welsh Government to work with the Wales Air Ambulance Service in the planning of emergency care and to provide adequate direct funding for those services, in order to assist the Wales Ambulance Service to meet its key objectives.
A vote was taken on amendment 9:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
20 |
0 |
21 |
41 |
Amendment 9 was not
agreed.
Amendment 10 -
William Graham (South Wales East)
Add at the end of motion:
Regrets that the Welsh NHS is facing the largest real-term health cuts of any of the UK nations and that this has the potential to have a detrimental impact on the Welsh Ambulance Service.
A vote was taken on amendment 10:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
10 |
6 |
25 |
41 |
Amendment 10 was not
agreed.
A vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM5085 Aled Roberts (North Wales)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) outline the role of the Wales Ambulance Service Trust
with regard to service reconfiguration and the impact that reconfiguration
could have on their budget and performance;
b) urgently assess the support available to the Wales
Ambulance Service so they can meet their agreed 65% response time targets; and
c) continue to assess arrangements between the Welsh Health Specialised Services Committee, Local Health Boards and WAST, to ensure robust governance and funding arrangements remain in place.
2. Notes the critical role played by the Wales Air Ambulance
Service in assisting the Wales Ambulance Service to respond to emergencies in
Wales.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
31 |
0 |
10 |
41 |
The motion as amended
was agreed.
Publication date: 07/11/2012
Date of decision: 07/11/2012
Decided at meeting: 07/11/2012 - Plenary - Fourth Assembly