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Transcript: Transcript for 21/06/2023 - Plenary
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This
meeting was held in a hybrid format, with some Members in the Senedd Chamber
and others joining by video-conference. |
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(45 mins) |
Joint item with the Welsh Youth Parliament Minutes: The item started at
12.45. In accordance with
Standing Order 13.3 the Llywydd, having consulted with Business Committee,
invited ten Welsh Youth Parliament Members to participate in Senedd proceedings
for the purpose of this joint item. 31 other Welsh Youth Parliament Members
were also present in the Chamber for the item. Youth Parliament
Members were called to update the Senedd on the work of the Welsh Youth
Parliament, following which the First Minister, party leaders and the Chair of
the Senedd’s Children, Young People and Education Committee were called to
respond. Five Youth Parliament Members were called to ask questions, which were
answered by the Minister for Education and Welsh Language, the Deputy Minister
for Climate Change and the Deputy Minister for Mental Health and Wellbeing. At 13.25, in accordance with Standing Order 12.18, the meeting was suspended to allow a break before the next item. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip The Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople
to ask questions without notice to the Minister after Question 2. Supporting documents: Minutes: The item started at
13.35 The first 9 questions were asked. Questions 6 and 8 was answered by the Deputy Minister for Social Partnership. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Minister after question 2. |
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(45 mins) |
Questions to the Counsel General and Minister for the Constitution The Presiding Officer will call party spokespeople
to ask questions without notice to the Counsel General after Question 2. Minutes: The item started at
14.22 The first 8 questions were asked. The Presiding Officer invited party spokespeople to ask questions to the Counsel General after question 2. |
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Point of Order At 15.11, Alun Davies raised a Point of Order in
relation to James Evans’s supplementary question to Question 5 to the Counsel
General and Minister for the Constitution, during which the Member had alleged
that the First Minister and Minister for Health and Social Services had misled
the Senedd. The Deputy Presiding Officer indicated that he would review the
Record and reflect upon the contribution made. At
18.18, having reviewed the Record, the Deputy Presiding Officer ruled that the
use of terms such as ‘misled’ and ‘misleading’ without qualification can be
construed as alleging a deliberate intent, and that the earlier contribution by
James Evans MS had omitted reference to clarifications previously made. |
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(30 mins) |
Questions to the Senedd Commission Minutes: The item started at 15.12 The 9 questions were asked. Questions 4 and 7 were grouped for answer. |
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(20 mins) |
Topical Questions To
ask the Deputy Minister for Climate Change Andrew RT Davies (South
Wales Central): What assessment has the Minister made of 61 drink retailers
operating in Wales writing an open letter to the Welsh Government calling for
the exclusion of glass from its deposit return scheme in line with the rest of
the UK? To
ask the Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip Jenny Rathbone (Cardiff
Central): In light of recent revelations, what discussions has the Welsh
Government had with the UK Government regarding how many members of the
Windrush generation from Wales with chronic and mental illness were deported? To
ask the Minister for Education and Welsh Language Altaf Hussain (South Wales
West): What immediate action is the Welsh Government taking to work with
schools to educate young people about water safety following the tragic drowning
at Aberavon pier on Monday evening? Minutes: The item started at
15.47 Answered by the
Deputy Minister for Climate Change Andrew RT Davies (South
Wales Central): What assessment has the Minister made of 61 drink
retailers operating in Wales writing an open letter to the Welsh Government
calling for the exclusion of glass from its deposit return scheme in line with
the rest of the UK? Answered by the
Minister for Social Justice and Chief Whip Jenny Rathbone (Cardiff
Central): In light of recent revelations,
what discussions has the Welsh Government had with the UK Government regarding
how many members of the Windrush generation from Wales with chronic and mental
illness were deported? Answered by the
Minister for Education and Welsh Language Altaf Hussain (South Wales West): What immediate action is the Welsh Government taking to work with schools to educate young people about water safety following the tragic drowning at Aberavon pier on Monday evening? |
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(5 mins) |
90 Second Statements Minutes: The item started at
16.13 Tom Giffard made a statement on - Wales beating
Scotland 10-2 to win World Cup of Darts. Samuel Kurtz made a statement on - Welsh Food and
Farming Week (19-23 June). Vikki Howells made a statement on - Centenary of Aberdare Cenotaph (8 March) to be marked with an anniversary celebration, including a parade (25 June). |
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Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal - A civic duty to vote Bill - Postponed NDM8293 Adam Price (Carmarthen East
and Dinefwr) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Notes a proposal for a Bill on the introduction
of a civic duty to vote. 2. Notes that the purpose of this Bill
would be to: a) to seek to emulate the success of other
democracies that have introduced a civic duty to vote in increasing levels of
voter turnout at elections and thereby improving the level of engagement and
representativeness across all ages, classes and communities; b) to introduce a civic duty for all those
eligible to vote to participate in Senedd and county council elections; c) to allow those wishing to indicate their
dissatisfaction with a candidate, party or politics more broadly to so by means
of a positive abstention option on the ballot paper; d) to allow for the introduction of an
appropriate sanction for non-compliance with the civic obligation to vote or
positively abstain, with legitimate exemptions; and e) to provide for the introduction of a
pilot phase for the introduction of the duty on an age-specific basis. Supporters Minutes: This item was
postponed |
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Debate on the Health and Social Care Committee report - Dentistry NDM8299 Russell George
(Montgomeryshire) To propose that the Senedd: Notes the Health and Social Care Committee
report, ‘Dentistry’, laid on 15
February 2023. Note: The response of the Welsh Government to the report was laid in the Table Office on 14 June 2023. Minutes: The item started at 16.19 NDM8299 Russell George
(Montgomeryshire) To
propose that the Senedd: Notes
the Health and Social Care Committee report, ‘Dentistry’, laid on
15 February 2023. Note:
The response of the Welsh Government to the report was laid in
the Table Office on 14 June 2023. The
motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36. |
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(60 mins) |
Plaid Cymru Debate - Devolution of justice and policing NDM8300 Sian Gwenllian (Arfon) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Notes that over a quarter of a century since
devolution, Wales remains the only devolved nation without its own legal system
and powers over its police forces, despite there being no rational basis for
this. 2. Believes that: a) powers over justice and policing should
be fully devolved to Wales; and b) establishing a distinct Welsh legal
system and making Welsh police forces fully accountable to the Senedd can be
vital steps along the road to independence. 3. Calls on the
Welsh Government to formally request powers over justice and policing. The following amendment was tabled: Amendment 1 Lesley
Griffiths (Wrexham) Delete all after sub-point 2 (a) and
replace with: establishing a distinct Welsh legal system
and making Welsh police forces fully accountable to the Senedd can be vital
steps to ensuring that justice and policing can be better delivered for the
benefit of the people of Wales; and the Commission on Justice in Wales set out
clearly why powers over justice should be wholly devolved and a Welsh legal
jurisdiction established. Calls on the Welsh Government to continue pursuing the case and preparing for the devolution of policing and justice. Minutes: The
item started at 17.08 Voting on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred
until Voting Time. A vote was taken on the motion without amendment: NDM8300 Sian
Gwenllian (Arfon) To propose that the Senedd: 1. Notes that over a quarter of a century since devolution, Wales
remains the only devolved nation without its own legal system and powers over
its police forces, despite there being no rational basis for this. 2. Believes that: a) powers over justice and policing should be fully devolved to
Wales; and b) establishing a distinct Welsh legal system and making Welsh
police forces fully accountable to the Senedd can be vital steps along the road
to independence. 3. Calls on the Welsh Government to formally request powers over
justice and policing.
The motion without amendment was not agreed. The following amendment was tabled: Amendment
1 Lesley Griffiths
(Wrexham) Delete
all after sub-point 2 (a) and replace with: establishing
a distinct Welsh legal system and making Welsh police forces fully accountable
to the Senedd can be vital steps to ensuring that justice and policing can be
better delivered for the benefit of the people of Wales; and the
Commission on Justice in Wales set out clearly why powers over justice should
be wholly devolved and a Welsh legal jurisdiction established. Calls
on the Welsh Government to continue pursuing the case and preparing for the
devolution of policing and justice. A vote
was taken on amendment 1:
As required by Standing Order 6.20 the Deputy Presiding Officer
exercised his casting vote by voting against the amendment. Therefore,
amendment 1 was not agreed. As the Senedd did not agree the motion without amendment, and did
not agree the amendment tabled to the motion, the motion was therefore not
agreed. |
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Voting Time Minutes: The item started at 18.19 |
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(30 mins) |
Short Debate NDM8291 Joel James (South Wales
Central) The repurposing of drugs to treat rare diseases Minutes: The item started at
18.21 NDM8291 Joel James (South
Wales Central) The repurposing of
drugs to treat rare diseases |
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