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Transcript: Transcript for 13/01/2020 - Public Accounts Committee - Fifth Senedd

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Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest


1.1 Apologies had been received from Nick Ramsay AM, Committee Chair. Darren Millar AM substituted.

1.2 The Clerk asked for nominations for a temporary Chair under SO 17.22. Jenny Rathbone AM nominated Darren Millar AM, which was endorsed by the Committee.

1.3 The Chair welcomed the Members to the Committee and in particular, Lynne Neagle AM, who attend in her role as Chair of the Children, Young People & Education Committee.

1.4 Apologies were received from Adam Price AM.




Paper(s) to note


2.1 The papers were noted.


Hospital Catering and Patient Nutrition: Letter from the Welsh Government (20 December 2019)

Supporting documents:


Scrutiny of Accounts 2018-19: Letter from the Welsh Government (20 December 2019)

Supporting documents:

(13.20 - 14.50)


Care experienced children and young people: Evidence session with the Welsh Government

Research Briefing

Research Service Statistical Briefing

PAC(5)-02-20 Paper 1 – Welsh Government

PAC(5)-02-20 Paper 2 – David Melding AM, Chair of Ministerial Advisory Group

PAC(5)-02-20 Paper 3 – WLGA

PAC(5)-02-20 Paper 4 – Children’s Commissioner for Wales

PAC(5)-02-20 Paper 5 – Children in Wales

PAC(5)-02-20 Paper 6 – NSPCC Wales


Albert Heaney - Director of Social Services and Integration, Welsh Government

Alistair Davey - Deputy Director, Enabling People, Welsh Government

Steve Davies – Director, Education Directorate, Welsh Government

Megan Colley - Head of Supporting Achievement & Safeguarding, Welsh Government

Supporting documents:


3.1 The Committee scrutinised the Welsh Government as part of the inquiry into Care experienced children and young people.

3.2 There were a number of action points which will be incorporated into a letter from the Chair together with the Committee’s views.



Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Item 5


4.1 The motion was agreed.

(14.50 - 15.15)


Care experienced children and young people: Consideration of evidence received


5.1 The Committee discussed the evidence received and agreed that the Chair would write to the Welsh Government on a number of issues raised.