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Transcript: Transcript for 23/09/2019 - Public Accounts Committee - Fifth Senedd

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Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest


1.1        The Chair welcomed the Members to the meeting.

1.2        Apologies were received from Gareth Bennett AM, Adam Price AM, and Jenny Rathbone AM.

(13.15 - 14.45)


Cardiff Airport: Evidence Session with the Welsh Government

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-22-19 Paper 1 – Welsh Government

PAC(5)-22-19 Paper 2 – Welsh Government Written Statement: UK response to the Welsh Affairs Committee report into the Devolution of Air Passenger Duty to Wales (6 September 2019)


Andrew Slade - Director General, Economy, Skills & Natural Resources Group, Welsh Government

Simon Jones – Director, Economic Infrastructure, Welsh Government

Supporting documents:


2.1 The Committee received evidence from Andrew Slade, Director General, Economy, Skills & Natural Resources Group and Simon Jones, Director, Economic Infrastructure, Welsh Government on Cardiff Airport.

2.1 Simon Jones declared an interest as Chair of Holdco.

2.3 Andrew Slade agreed to send additional information on:

·         The number of routes and destinations Thomas Cook operated from Cardiff Airport;

·         What data the Welsh Government has published in relation to the value of the PSO subsidy, passengers numbers and the assessment of the value for money of the service for the previous contracts for the Intra-Wales Air Service; and

·         Confirm whether the number of Border Force personnel has increased at the airport as part of the contingency planning for Brexit.

2.4 The Chair agreed to write to the Welsh Government seeking clarification on a number of financial performance issues relating to Cardiff Airport.

(14.45 - 15.00)


Management of follow up outpatients across Wales: Consideration of the Welsh Government Response to the Committee's Report

PAC(5)-22-19 Paper 3 – Welsh Government Response

Supporting documents:


3.1 The Committee considered the Welsh Government’s response to the Committee Report and agreed to seek clarification on Recommendation 4 together with the allocation of finance each health board will receive in order to improve their outpatients targets.



Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Item 5


4.1 The Motion was agreed.

(15.00 - 15.30)


Cardiff Airport: Consideration of evidence received


5.1 Members considered the evidence received and agreed that they would find a visit to the airport beneficial.