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Transcript: Transcript for 30/09/2019 - Public Accounts Committee - Fifth Senedd

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Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest


1.1        The Chair welcomed the Members to the meeting.

1.2        Apologies were received from Adam Price AM.

(13.00 - 13.05)


Paper(s) to note


2. The papers were noted.


Cardiff Airport: Letter from the Minister for Economy and Transport (20 September 2019)

Supporting documents:


Governance Review of Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board: Lessons Learnt: Letter from the Welsh Government (24 September 2019)

Supporting documents:

(13.05 - 14.20)


Scrutiny of Accounts 2018-19: Assembly Commission

Research Briefing

PAC(5)-23-19 Paper 1 – Assembly Commission Annual Report and Accounts 2018-19

PAC(5)-23-19 Paper 2 – Recommendations contained in the Committee’s Report on the 2017-18 Annual Report and Accounts


Manon Antoniazzi – Chief Executive and Clerk of the Assembly

Nia Morgan – Director of Finance, National Assembly for Wales

Suzy Davies AM – Commissioner with responsibility for ​Budget and Governance


Supporting documents:


3.1 The Committee received evidence from Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk of the Assembly, Nia Morgan, Director of Finance, National Assembly for Wales and Suzy Davies AM, Commissioner with responsibility for Budget and Governance, on the Assembly Commission’s Accounts.

3.2 The witnesses agreed to send further information on the following points:

·         The stretch targets for the key performance indicators;

·         plans/work being done to reduce single use plastic;

·         The environmental aspects of contract assessments; and

·         A comparison of absence relating to mental health and wellbeing from this year and last year.


(14.20 - 14.30)


Primary care out-of-hours services: Consideration of the Welsh Government Response to the Committee's Report

PAC(5)-23-19 Paper 3 – Welsh Government Response

Supporting documents:


4. The Committee noted the Welsh Government’s response and agreed to return to it at the next meeting.



Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

Items 6 & 7


5.1 The Motion was agreed.

(14.30 - 14.45)


Scrutiny of Accounts 2018-19: Consideration of evidence received


6. The Committee considered the evidence received.

(14.45 - 16.00)


Committee working practices and procedures: Committee Training


7. Members of the Committee received a training session on the role of Accounting Officers.