Plaid Cymru debate – The European Union (Withdrawal) Bill and devolution
NDM6712 Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes the agreement between the Welsh and UK governments on the European Union
(Withdrawal) Bill.
2.
Further notes that the agreement renders the Law Derived from the European
Union (Wales) Bill, passed by a majority in the National Assembly for Wales, redundant.
3.
Regrets the fact that the agreement grants the UK Parliament a veto over areas
of devolved legislation.
4.
Further regrets the agreement's undermining of the Plaid Cymru-Welsh Government
White Paper on Securing Wales' Future which states "that the UK exit from
the EU must not result in devolved powers being clawed back to the UK
Government. Any attempt to do so will be firmly resisted by us".
5.
Calls for a meaningful vote in the National Assembly for Wales on the
agreement.
European
Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Law
Derived from the European Union (Wales) Bill
The following amendments
have been tabled:
Amendment 1. Paul
Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
Delete
all and replace with:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
Welcomes:
a)
the agreement between the Welsh and UK governments on the European Union
(Withdrawal) Bill;
b)
that this will protect the UK internal market and ensure no new barriers are
created within the UK for consumers and businesses;
c)
that this means the vast majority of EU powers that intersect with devolved
competences will go directly to the devolved parliaments and assemblies when
the UK leaves the EU;
d)
the duty placed on UK Ministers to seek the agreement of the devolved
legislatures each time they propose to make regulations to put a policy area
into the clause 11 “freeze”;
e)
the time-limit introduced on the temporary constraint on devolved competence;
and
f)
that this means the Welsh Government will now recommend that the National
Assembly for Wales pass a legislative consent motion for the EU (Withdrawal)
Bill.
[If amendment 1 is agreed,
amendment 2 will be de-selected]
Amendment 2. Julie
James (Swansea West)
Delete
all after point 2 and replace with:
3.
Agrees that this positive outcome to the negotiations with the UK Government
secures the National Assembly’s powers over devolved policies in the changing
circumstances created by Brexit and entrenches the Sewel convention, based on a
default position that changes to the Assembly’s competences require the
Assembly’s consent.
4.
Welcomes the fact that any UK wide frameworks to replace the current EU
frameworks will be freely negotiated between the governments and will be
subject to the Sewel convention; and that while these frameworks are being
negotiated, no government, including the UK Government in respect of England,
will be able to introduce legislation which departs from the status quo.
5.
Notes further that the National Assembly will have the opportunity for a
meaningful vote on the agreement when it considers the Legislative Consent
Motion to be brought forward by the Welsh Government.
Minutes:
The
item started at 15.48
Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM6712
Rhun
ap Iorwerth (Ynys Môn)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes the agreement between the Welsh and UK governments on the European Union
(Withdrawal) Bill.
2.
Further notes that the agreement renders the Law Derived from the European
Union (Wales) Bill, passed by a majority in the National Assembly for Wales,
redundant.
3.
Regrets the fact that the agreement grants the UK Parliament a veto over areas
of devolved legislation.
4.
Further regrets the agreement's undermining of the Plaid Cymru-Welsh Government
White Paper on Securing Wales' Future which states "that the UK exit from
the EU must not result in devolved powers being clawed back to the UK
Government. Any attempt to do so will be firmly resisted by us".
5.
Calls for a meaningful vote in the National Assembly for Wales on the agreement.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
7 |
0 |
39 |
46 |
The
motion without amendment was not agreed.
The
following amendments were tabled:
Amendment
1. Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire)
Delete
all and replace with:
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
Welcomes:
a)
the agreement between the Welsh and UK governments on the European Union
(Withdrawal) Bill;
b)
that this will protect the UK internal market and ensure no new barriers are
created within the UK for consumers and businesses;
c)
that this means the vast majority of EU powers that intersect with devolved
competences will go directly to the devolved parliaments and assemblies when
the UK leaves the EU;
d)
the duty placed on UK Ministers to seek the agreement of the devolved
legislatures each time they propose to make regulations to put a policy area
into the clause 11 “freeze”;
e)
the time-limit introduced on the temporary constraint on devolved competence;
and
f)
that this means the Welsh Government will now recommend that the National
Assembly for Wales pass a legislative consent motion for the EU (Withdrawal)
Bill.
[If
amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be de-selected]
A
vote was taken on amendment 1:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
14 |
0 |
32 |
46 |
Amendment
1 was not agreed.
Amendment
2. Julie James (Swansea
West)
Delete
all after point 2 and replace with:
3.
Agrees that this positive outcome to the negotiations with the UK Government
secures the National Assembly’s powers over devolved policies in the changing
circumstances created by Brexit and entrenches the Sewel convention, based on a
default position that changes to the Assembly’s competences require the
Assembly’s consent.
4.
Welcomes the fact that any UK wide frameworks to replace the current EU
frameworks will be freely negotiated between the governments and will be
subject to the Sewel convention; and that while these frameworks are being
negotiated, no government, including the UK Government in respect of England,
will be able to introduce legislation which departs from the status quo.
5.
Notes further that the National Assembly will have the opportunity for a
meaningful vote on the agreement when it considers the Legislative Consent
Motion to be brought forward by the Welsh Government.
A
vote was taken on amendment 2:
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
38 |
0 |
7 |
46 |
Amendment
2 was agreed.
A
vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM6712
Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn)
To
propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1.
Notes the agreement between the Welsh and UK governments on the European Union
(Withdrawal) Bill.
2.
Further notes that the agreement renders the Law Derived from the European
Union (Wales) Bill, passed by a majority in the National Assembly for Wales,
redundant.
3.
Agrees that this positive outcome to the negotiations with the UK Government
secures the National Assembly’s powers over devolved policies in the changing
circumstances created by Brexit and entrenches the Sewel convention, based on a
default position that changes to the Assembly’s competences require the
Assembly’s consent.
4.
Welcomes the fact that any UK wide frameworks to replace the current EU
frameworks will be freely negotiated between the governments and will be
subject to the Sewel convention; and that while these frameworks are being
negotiated, no government, including the UK Government in respect of England,
will be able to introduce legislation which departs from the status quo.
5.
Notes further that the National Assembly will have the opportunity for a
meaningful vote on the agreement when it considers the Legislative Consent
Motion to be brought forward by the Welsh Government.
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
39 |
0 |
7 |
46 |
The
motion as amended was agreed.